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Admin posted Nov-2016

Some of you have noticed the long-range snow forecasts (for the first half of December) have been somewhat dynamic recently; one day forecasting lots of snow, then little, etc.

I've also had an email asking if it's going to be really mild in December... So here are some thoughts... 8)

First off, remember that forecasting snow amounts for more than a week ahead really is fraught with challenge. It crops up regularly but always worth remembering that some of the biggest snowfalls occur along the boundaries (fronts) between weather systems - the classic scenario being warm, moist air from the South meets icy cold air from the North over the mountains (bingo!). We talk of bands of snow along these boundaries; mobile bands of snow give us lighter snow over a wider area, slow moving (or even stationary) bands of snow can give huge but quite localized falls.

So the exact tracks of the major weather systems is what matters for us; if they vary just a little then the snow forecast for a particular location can change completely (from huge snow to no snow and vice versa).

Right now, the forecast models are juggling conflicting outcomes driven by numerous factors including a weak Polar Vortex, the vagaries of the Jetstream, and the possible development and/or collapse of arctic blocking.

A good illustration of the model uncertainty can be seen in the current GFS ensemble chart for Geneva included below.

The various lines are model runs with slight changes in input parameters.

- You can see they're all consistent until the end of November - so we can have a high level of confidence that the average of those runs is a pretty good forecast.

- But they scatter at the beginning of December - telling us there's very low confidence in any one of those outcomes being correct. One of them will likely be close to reality, but we don't know which.

FWIW, it does look as if December's going to bring plenty of snow (lower set of lines), but the rain/snow line is unclear at the moment.



One other point to remember :- there are various "temperature anomaly" charts available; in general, these show you the difference between the forecast temperature and the seasonal average temperature. Even if they indicate a +2C anomaly, that just means 2C milder than the seasonal average... so still pretty cold in December!

Similarly, although you can see the average temperature predicted by the ensemble above (the upper white line) is around 5C at the end of December; that is in Geneva which is 1,000m below where you'll be skiing! 8)

I'll update this thread as the December forecast becomes clearer, but it looks promising from here.

References

If you want more (about the Polar Vortex and Arctic Oscillation), there's good in-depth coverage here https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation
The Admin Man

Brucie
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016

I'll let you know what the goat herds say when I arrive in Soldeu!
"Better to remain reticent and have people think one is an idiot, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"

Admin
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016

Brucie wrote:I'll let you know what the goat herds say when I arrive in Soldeu!

8)
Hopefully the goat-herds can tell you what they've heard from their herds, and what's been heard from other herds of goats who've heard it from their goat-herds. Always good to have heard a second-hand herd opinion.

Probably a grapevine involved there too...
The Admin Man

Andyoneil
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016



Heard you were looking for this kind of thing Adders....

Andyoneil
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016

Seriously though

It does look as though (with all the usual caveats and ifs and maybes) that the season for Europe as a whole will start rather better than it has done, generally, for a few years

Got to be good news for those who go early and/or low

Bedrock barney
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016

Well, I'm going early and high so will be well disappointed if the snow isn't there in 3 weeks time!
slippy slidey snow......me likey!

Ade73
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016



This was tignes today. Very mild. Only 2 lifts open. Tichot and bolin and they didn't open until 11. The snow is very deep but extremely heavy. At one point I was stuck chest deep. Hopefully the season starts tomorrow properly. Speaking to a local today and she said that last years start was better. I'm sure I remember last year being a very scetchy start.
www  Where ever you go there you are

Alessi
reply to 'Outlook for December 2016'
posted Nov-2016

Great pic, this has got me inspired...and Amber doesn't look too bad either!

Topic last updated on 29-November-2016 at 14:54