Having been on the piste for more years than i can remember,it is
becoming more apparent that the piste is getting trashed that much quicker in the following circumstances
1. After a fresh dusting.
2. On lower slopes,particuarly south facing
3. Spring skiing in the afternoon.
The above are all due to the technique that the majority of snowboarders use to bluff ther way down the piste.This is
getting to be far more of a problem due to the number of (apprentice)boarders who during there early outings on boards"are going down runs that are beyond their capability leaning back and scraping 1 metre wide sections of snow up in the air which when snow is thin on the ground is of no benefit to anyone.With boards getting even longer this can only create more problems for Lift Management Companies and Skiers & Boarders who can ride without scraping.
And as for boarding after you're 30, forget it .
Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.
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Are you trolling to wind people up? This is the kind of ill informed misconception that used abound years ago.
You forget that until recently 99% of skiers could not carve turns, and were able to totally ruin any soft nicely groomed piste into moguls in no time at all, by skidding their skis from side to side, instead of making real turns.. It's not so bad now that skis are shaped like snowboards, and skiers are able to make real turns. For every beginner snowboarder carefully using their edges to control their descent, there is an out of control skier, who has no idea how to use their edges, other than snow plough. If you are really concerned about snow being scrapped off, ban beginner skiers, and all those skiers with their legs stuck together.
Beginner snowboarders don't use long boards. It's really is sad, that after all those years "on the piste", you know so little about snow sports. The piste bashers were pushing snow back up the hill at the end of the day, long before snowboarding took off
And over 30 :roll: I'm over 50 in this photo
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Started by Paulschlote in Ski Chatter 22-Nov-2010 - 65 Replies
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Bandit
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
Just go where they don't/won't, and the problem is diminished :D
EmmaEvs
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
Out of interest does anybody think that in the future at some point resorts will start tailoring different slopes specifically towards boarders or skiers? I don't mean in order to segregate or ban one from the other, more to cater for preference. For example, I can't imagine a mogulled slope is particularly easy or enjoyable on a board. At least on skis we have the opportunity to do short turns which suit the terrain better.
So, if skiing didn't exist and boarders could start from scratch and write a wish list of what they wanted from a slope, how different would it be from the pistes we know already? There must have been a time when someone said "I'm sick of looking for little jumps here and there, what I really want is a really long, steep thing I can do loads of jumps on one after the other" and the half pipe was born.
Am I talking complete nonsense (probably) or is there a tiny nugget of an idea in there somewhere?
So, if skiing didn't exist and boarders could start from scratch and write a wish list of what they wanted from a slope, how different would it be from the pistes we know already? There must have been a time when someone said "I'm sick of looking for little jumps here and there, what I really want is a really long, steep thing I can do loads of jumps on one after the other" and the half pipe was born.
Am I talking complete nonsense (probably) or is there a tiny nugget of an idea in there somewhere?
I wish I could meet the person who first decided to strap 2 planks to their feet and throw themselves down a mountain
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Ewanmalone
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
I think that's a terrible attitude to have. especially with your countless years of experience.
ive seen beginner skiers snow ploughing their way down slopes clearing what little snow there is off an icy piste. fact is we all have to start somewhere and im sure even an expert like yourself took on a piste which was above you skill level at some point. why not just be tolerant of all people using the mountain then we can all have fun.
ive seen beginner skiers snow ploughing their way down slopes clearing what little snow there is off an icy piste. fact is we all have to start somewhere and im sure even an expert like yourself took on a piste which was above you skill level at some point. why not just be tolerant of all people using the mountain then we can all have fun.
AlistairS
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
Oh Dear, in the words of the famous song - There may be trouble ahead! I,m a skier, but no on both counts.
I just love the gravitational pull
Surfarthur
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
I agree with you ewan, and on the point of older people snowboarding, due to a knee injury I will never be able to get on a pair of skis, but I am able to snowboard quite well, so I intend to be snowboarding for many more years to come. There are plenty of people now, and more every year that are over 30 and snowboard.
SkiPatrollerDave
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
"And as for boarding after you're 30, forget it "
I'm 48, learned to board 5 years ago. Skied all my life. Not uncommon for storms to bring in 25-100 cms of snow overnight. On days like that, SB is definitely the way to go. As for not wanting to share the mountain with boarders, better get over that.
I'm 48, learned to board 5 years ago. Skied all my life. Not uncommon for storms to bring in 25-100 cms of snow overnight. On days like that, SB is definitely the way to go. As for not wanting to share the mountain with boarders, better get over that.
Trencher
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
paulschlote wrote:Having been on the piste for more years than i can remember,it is
becoming more apparent that the piste is getting trashed that much quicker in the following circumstances
1. After a fresh dusting.
2. On lower slopes,particuarly south facing
3. Spring skiing in the afternoon.
The above are all due to the technique that the majority of snowboarders use to bluff ther way down the piste.This is
getting to be far more of a problem due to the number of (apprentice)boarders who during there early outings on boards"are going down runs that are beyond their capability leaning back and scraping 1 metre wide sections of snow up in the air which when snow is thin on the ground is of no benefit to anyone.With boards getting even longer this can only create more problems for Lift Management Companies and Skiers & Boarders who can ride without scraping.
And as for boarding after you're 30, forget it .
Are you trolling to wind people up? This is the kind of ill informed misconception that used abound years ago.
You forget that until recently 99% of skiers could not carve turns, and were able to totally ruin any soft nicely groomed piste into moguls in no time at all, by skidding their skis from side to side, instead of making real turns.. It's not so bad now that skis are shaped like snowboards, and skiers are able to make real turns. For every beginner snowboarder carefully using their edges to control their descent, there is an out of control skier, who has no idea how to use their edges, other than snow plough. If you are really concerned about snow being scrapped off, ban beginner skiers, and all those skiers with their legs stuck together.
Beginner snowboarders don't use long boards. It's really is sad, that after all those years "on the piste", you know so little about snow sports. The piste bashers were pushing snow back up the hill at the end of the day, long before snowboarding took off
And over 30 :roll: I'm over 50 in this photo
because I'm so inclined .....
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