I don't know anyone with Lib-Tech gear, but there is likely to be a couple of guys on Icelantic Nomads around when I ski in January. Same or different?
http://icelanticboards.com/skis/nomad/
I'll be taking my helmet :D
Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.
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Started by Paulschlote in Ski Chatter 22-Nov-2010 - 65 Replies
Bandit
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
SkiPatrollerDave
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
The reason I got off topic in this thread is the Lip Tech ski is made by a well know snowboard company, found in snowboard shops using mostly snowboard technology.
The Lip Tech boards have a "wavy edge", so do the skis.
So while the Icelantic skis look awesome, and I would personally love to try some. it's not really the same.
Hopefully, we've blown away the guy's original argument that boarders have no place on a mountain with skiers. We're all there to slide. We do it in are own way.
IF we ant to start a discussion on what should not be on a piste run at a resort, it's those ridicules snowblades. And I'm talking from a control and rate injury perspective. I'm sure they are lots of fun.
But that's another thread......
The Lip Tech boards have a "wavy edge", so do the skis.
So while the Icelantic skis look awesome, and I would personally love to try some. it's not really the same.
Hopefully, we've blown away the guy's original argument that boarders have no place on a mountain with skiers. We're all there to slide. We do it in are own way.
IF we ant to start a discussion on what should not be on a piste run at a resort, it's those ridicules snowblades. And I'm talking from a control and rate injury perspective. I'm sure they are lots of fun.
But that's another thread......
Bandit
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
My god, that wavy edge is really pronounced. I'd expected just slight curves :shock:
Thinks*** they are not going to fit in a ski shop planer!
If you get to demo some, please report back on what you think!
Hmmm snowblades :mrgreen: :lol:
Thinks*** they are not going to fit in a ski shop planer!
If you get to demo some, please report back on what you think!
Hmmm snowblades :mrgreen: :lol:
SkiPatrollerDave
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
One of the Patrollers I work with has a pair, he swears by them. They are as wide as a backcountry ski, he claims that the edges hold on the iciest runs. You have to be willing to tune them by hand, but we all do that, right? Also they are not cheap, under $1000 cdn would be a really good deal. But they are made in USA, so probably cheaper there.
Trencher
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
From what I understand Magna Traction was really designed for park rats who wreck their edges on slides, but still need to be able to carve. Real carvers who have tried it say it doesn't compare to a well tuned edge, for edge hold, but is better than blunt, mangled edges. So I guess if you never tune your skis, it might be for you.
More useful recent tech from snowboards would be klothoid side cut radius shapes, and compound cambers. The next generation of riser plates will blow your mind, again snowboard tech.
More useful recent tech from snowboards would be klothoid side cut radius shapes, and compound cambers. The next generation of riser plates will blow your mind, again snowboard tech.
because I'm so inclined .....
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SkiPatrollerDave
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
I have to admit I had to ask my kids what some of that meant. Point well taken though! Technology of Skiing has in increased leaps and bounds because because skiing had stagnated in the 80's and 90's. I have to wonder if I was still skiing on 203cm straight skis if I'd even be doing it today?
Wonder if Paulschlote is still reading this tread, Paul, you there?
Wonder if Paulschlote is still reading this tread, Paul, you there?
Brad1138
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
I don't know that the OP was necessarily trolling. I am not sure about the reasons he sighted, but I have had similar conversations with my group of ski buddies.
We seek out 2 things, moguls & powder. Boarders don't have any negative effect on powder (more than skiers anyway), but on the moguls, they commonly shave them off, into odd patterns. The somewhat standard mogul is no more. It is just the way it is these days, but kind of sad for us skiers also.
The other thing I will say is that, in general, snow boarders are a MUCH more foul mouthed group. Getting back into skiing in 2008, it is common to hear kids loudly saying "f***" this or that. It is almost always a group of snowboarders. It doesn't necessarily bother me a lot but there are commonly kids around as well as older people that don't need to hear their lack of an intelligent vocabulary.
Brad
We seek out 2 things, moguls & powder. Boarders don't have any negative effect on powder (more than skiers anyway), but on the moguls, they commonly shave them off, into odd patterns. The somewhat standard mogul is no more. It is just the way it is these days, but kind of sad for us skiers also.
The other thing I will say is that, in general, snow boarders are a MUCH more foul mouthed group. Getting back into skiing in 2008, it is common to hear kids loudly saying "f***" this or that. It is almost always a group of snowboarders. It doesn't necessarily bother me a lot but there are commonly kids around as well as older people that don't need to hear their lack of an intelligent vocabulary.
Brad
If there is no skiing in Heaven, I am staying here....
SkiPatrollerDave
reply to 'Snowboarding - Should it be banned from some resorts . and is it just for the youth.' posted Nov-2010
Disrespect is never alright! I'd would like to disagree with you because I snowboard myself as do my kids, however, I think I have to agree with you, that group seems to be guilty of that more than others. But, just playing both sides of the argument, "Park brats" of either sliding persuasion seem to have no problem with "f***" this or that." . Also, as snowboarding matures, it moves further away from the "skater culture' more towards mainstream.
Topic last updated on 30-November-2010 at 07:22