Camelbacks and water bladders
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Is there anything more pleasant that nipping into a mountain inn after a couple of energetic hours skiing and enjoying a lovely hot chocolate -with a dash of rum, if the previous night's apres ski was a little over done :shock:
That turns out not to be entirely true or at least the observation has less use than it appears. If food and snacks are taken regularly then you will not need to take on extra salts or sugars when you're exercising. It's also not technically correct that dehydration is always accompanied by salt loss.
If you need to make an oral re-hydration solution (ORS) then you're looking at 1 ltr water, 4 tsps sugar and 1 tsp salt with the juice of one lemon or orange to provide potassium.
The other perceived advantage of a hydration system also turns out to be untrue as well, people assume it allows them to drink when they're thirsty and avoid dehydration, that's not true, thirst is a reaction to the onset of dehydration and by then it's already to late. Dehydration is a reversible condition and it's easy to do so at the early stage, the early stage symptoms will be thirst, tiredness/weakness, headaches, dizziness, reduction in urine volume etc. Ideally you want to have had a drink before that happens.
Intakes should be around 2.5 ltr per day rising to 5 ltr per day at altitude, part of that will come from food unless you're existing on a diet of dry biscuits and crisps of course :D If you do have dehydration then you need to re-hydrate at a rate of 600ml in the first 30mins and then 600ml per hour afterwards and not more. Normal hydration will be over 1200ml of urine output per 24hrs pale and odourless.
All of which is just the technical justification for stopping and having a drink from time to time which is just nicer.
I have nightmares about the stuff.
Gosh ise you do google some unusual items, thanks for the suggestion :wink:
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Started by Smirnoff_skier in Ski Chatter 30-Nov-2008 - 31 Replies
Smirnoff_skier
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Nov-2008
Will Stroh 80 freeze in a Camelbak?! I think not! :D
Tom
Ise
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
Admin wrote:bandit wrote:there are always other needs.....
...handy if you have your camelbak with you then... :lol: :lol:
Sorry, couldn't resist...
she could get this :
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Tino_11
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
If dehydration is a real issue for you, it should be considered that water alone is not the ultimate solution. Dehydration is both the loss of water from the body, as well as the loss of salts that go with the water.
I find that if I am ever dehydrated, lets say heatstroke, extreme exercise, hangover etc, water alone will not fix it sufficiently. Having water and something to eat is far more effective.
Therefore I support the log fire in a cabin philosophy )
I find that if I am ever dehydrated, lets say heatstroke, extreme exercise, hangover etc, water alone will not fix it sufficiently. Having water and something to eat is far more effective.
Therefore I support the log fire in a cabin philosophy )
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Andyhull
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
It's not a choice between a camelbak and a log cabin. You are allowed to do both!
Wanderer
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
Ian Wickham wrote:I like to stop for a drink, in a hut, log fire, take in the sights and plan the next piste.
Is there anything more pleasant that nipping into a mountain inn after a couple of energetic hours skiing and enjoying a lovely hot chocolate -with a dash of rum, if the previous night's apres ski was a little over done :shock:
Ise
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
tino_11 wrote:If dehydration is a real issue for you, it should be considered that water alone is not the ultimate solution. Dehydration is both the loss of water from the body, as well as the loss of salts that go with the water.
That turns out not to be entirely true or at least the observation has less use than it appears. If food and snacks are taken regularly then you will not need to take on extra salts or sugars when you're exercising. It's also not technically correct that dehydration is always accompanied by salt loss.
If you need to make an oral re-hydration solution (ORS) then you're looking at 1 ltr water, 4 tsps sugar and 1 tsp salt with the juice of one lemon or orange to provide potassium.
The other perceived advantage of a hydration system also turns out to be untrue as well, people assume it allows them to drink when they're thirsty and avoid dehydration, that's not true, thirst is a reaction to the onset of dehydration and by then it's already to late. Dehydration is a reversible condition and it's easy to do so at the early stage, the early stage symptoms will be thirst, tiredness/weakness, headaches, dizziness, reduction in urine volume etc. Ideally you want to have had a drink before that happens.
Intakes should be around 2.5 ltr per day rising to 5 ltr per day at altitude, part of that will come from food unless you're existing on a diet of dry biscuits and crisps of course :D If you do have dehydration then you need to re-hydrate at a rate of 600ml in the first 30mins and then 600ml per hour afterwards and not more. Normal hydration will be over 1200ml of urine output per 24hrs pale and odourless.
All of which is just the technical justification for stopping and having a drink from time to time which is just nicer.
RossF
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
smirnoff_skier wrote:Will Stroh 80 freeze in a Camelbak?! I think not! :D
I have nightmares about the stuff.
Bandit
reply to 'Camelbacks and water bladders' posted Dec-2008
ise wrote:Admin wrote:bandit wrote:there are always other needs.....
...handy if you have your camelbak with you then... :lol: :lol:
Sorry, couldn't resist...
she could get this :
http://www.thesavvytraveller.com/tools/new_angle/1home.htm
)
Gosh ise you do google some unusual items, thanks for the suggestion :wink:
Topic last updated on 01-December-2008 at 13:30