Driving: kit?

Or about £3 at B&Q for a bright orange shovel. Failing that a trowel!

I always take a set of jump leads.

........and a trailer to keep all this in? Or is that what roof boxes are for? :roll:

Iceman wrote:Or about £3 at B&Q for a bright orange shovel. Failing that a trowel!

Army surplus has a surated edge which cuts through ice the B&Q one will fall to bits in five mins 8)

The B&Q one will either fold as you use it or the ice will make it brittle and snap ;)

chateaudoz wrote:If you have winter tyres you are unlikely to need chains.

May I be so bold as to say this is a very dangerous statement, and incorrect.
Some countries will not permit you to drive WITHOUT winter tyres on all roads, so you really need to have them on all 4 wheels as a matter of course. But in extreme conditions, roads close to drivers who do not have snow chains, and with that in mind I would suggest you do not travel without chains. Chances are you will not need any, but saying it is unlikely you will need them as a result of having winter tyres is, frankly, wrong, as there is a good chance you might.

Tony_H wrote:

chateaudoz wrote:If you have winter tyres you are unlikely to need chains.

May I be so bold as to say this is a very dangerous statement, and incorrect.
Some countries will not permit you to drive WITHOUT winter tyres on all roads, so you really need to have them on all 4 wheels as a matter of course. But in extreme conditions, roads close to drivers who do not have snow chains, and with that in mind I would suggest you do not travel without chains. Chances are you will not need any, but saying it is unlikely you will need them as a result of having winter tyres is, frankly, wrong, as there is a good chance you might.

Absolutely correct Tony.
You won't get near the Tarentaise/Haute Tarentaise resorts without chains this weekend. You'll be stopped outside Moutiers, Aime, Bourg St Maurice by the police.

Tony_H wrote:

chateaudoz wrote:If you have winter tyres you are unlikely to need chains.

May I be so bold as to say this is a very dangerous statement, and incorrect.
Some countries will not permit you to drive WITHOUT winter tyres on all roads, so you really need to have them on all 4 wheels as a matter of course. But in extreme conditions, roads close to drivers who do not have snow chains, and with that in mind I would suggest you do not travel without chains. Chances are you will not need any, but saying it is unlikely you will need them as a result of having winter tyres is, frankly, wrong, as there is a good chance you might.

What?
You argument is both circular and confirms what I wrote in my own post.
I understand that, as you do not live here in the Alps, you do not have direct day to day experience of winter conditions but my statement IMHO in neither dangerous or incorrect.