Niederau, Austria

What you saying Dave? Niederau are struggling because they are too slow to bring their prices into line with the market?

Those prices are looking cheap I think, so some discounting already going on.

Just looked at those deals in order:

Manchester
Manchester
Room only Gatwick
Manchester
etc

The prices for Gatwick and Half Board start at £414 and to £433 for Niederau.

So horses for courses basically. Niederau looking good value if you want half board and London flights.

Matters not a jot to me, John, just useful to add numbers to straighten out rhetoric.

The last Crystals analysis showed numbers falling consistantly over much of the Alps. Since the banking crisis this has worsened almost everywhere.

Reductions are normally a matter for the hotel owner. I know sometimes, our friend has tried to reduce, but this has not been accepted, because he left it too late. Hotels can make up the money in other ways.

Dave Mac wrote:Top Inghams ski deals, (today):
Alpbach £305
Soll £309
Seefeld £326
Filzmoos £349
Westendorf £347
Maryhofen £380
Igls £414
Kaprun £421
Niederau £433

Nowt like a bit of factual. yet again!

Inghams? The notoriously expensive operator, who don't feature Niederau as heavily as most of the other operators? London only flights? Come on Dave, you can do better than that.....?

Random date input: 14th Jan 2012 (one of the lowest priced weeks of the season across Europe)
Search criteria: Austria, half board, 7 nights, cheapest price.

From London:
Kirchdorf £315
Niederau £329
Niederau £339
Rauris £344
Niederau £345
Axamer Lizum £369
Scheffau £378
Seefeld £379
Niederau £379
St Wolfgang £379
Thats 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 9th cheapest out of the top 10 prices

From Manchester:
Niederau £329
Niederau £339
Niederau £345
Rauris £345
Axamer Lizum £359
Kirchdorf £369
Seefeld £369
Kirchdorf £375
Niederau £379
Rauris £394
1st, 2nd, 3rd and 9th cheapest

From Scotland:
Niederau £329
Niederau £339
Niederau £345
Kirchdorf £345
Kirchdorf £355
Axamer Lizum £359
Seefeld £369
Rauris £374
Niederau £379
Axamer Lizum £395
1st, 2nd, 3rd and 9th again.

Nowt like an actual bit of factual[u] )
There's your rhetoric straightened 8)

By the way, I think you need to check your spelling of Mayrhofen.

Dave Mac wrote:Matters not a jot to me, John, just useful to add numbers to straighten out rhetoric.

The last Crystals analysis showed numbers falling consistantly over much of the Alps. Since the banking crisis this has worsened almost everywhere.

The Crystal annual report can only look at the market segments where they are able to take a count.
Everyone who is not on a package is invisible to Crystal. It makes me smile to think of the effort that must go into producing a head count of people who went on a Tour-Op package, and where they spent their money :D

I get the feeling that most folks in mainland Europe do not arrange their holidays this way.

I agree that is is mainly a UK phenonemon. (Hope I spelt that correctly, I know I got Maryhofen right)

Dave Mac wrote:I agree that is is mainly a UK phenonemon. (Hope I spelt that correctly, I know I got Maryhofen right)

Oops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenon

Wrong again, on both counts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=maryhofen

It should be Maryhofen - it's a lovely name !!
:D
and ....
Phenomenomenomenom is one of those words that just is difficult to stop once it's got started.

Mind you .......
It can probably be spelt any old way :oops:
phenomenon 1570s, "fact, occurrence," from L.L. phænomenon, from Gk. phainomenon "that which appears or is seen,"
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=p&p=22&allowed_in_frame=0

Dear tour operators,
Any cheapies from Belfast?????!!!