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Started by Jadavi in Ski Chatter - 48 Replies

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Jadavi posted Mar-2013

I've been researching my new skiis and it's clear they were not really designed for intermediates. Thought on the reviews seems to suggest that if you learn on better equipment you improve quicker.
Any thoughts on this?
Not too late to exchange them but why would experienced and thorough ski staff sell them to me?
Referring to my Nordica hells belles. (Ally kindly pasted the specs and description in another thread of that name I started if you're interested.)
I know they are this year's model but I cant believe how few reviews there are online that aren't adverts.
I bought them thinking they'll probably last me for life and the best quality for.my.money seemed a good idea... It wasn't suggested that they could be too.'expert' for me.
Should add that I aspire to off piste skiing which may have influenced the salesman's recommendation for me as I said on and.off.piste.

Sorry to.Keep.banging on about this but just spent my year's pocket money on it.

(and sorry for.all.these stupid.full.stops. My BlackBerry PlayBook.ks.driving me.mad)

AllyG
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posted Mar-2013

I noticed that they said those skis were specially light for 'hiking' with. I would guess that means ski-ing so far off piste that you have to carry your skis to get there!

I've never skied on 'expert' skis, so I wouldn't know what they're like.

I always rent my skis and last time the shop gave me these:

http://www.elanskis.com/en/product/waveflex-8-green-qt.html

They are suppose to be intermediate all mountain mens skis, especially good at carving on the piste. I found they were fine in powder up to about 18 inches deep, but I didn't try them out in anything deeper than that. And they're only 73 cm wide at the narrow bit.

I don't like wide skis myself. The ones I've tried are too soft and flexible on the piste. And when we went for an off-piste lesson 8 weeks ago I hired some very wide ones and found them hard to stop on a hard packed piste, with a 'hockey stop'.

For myself I would say that 90cm was too wide for a piste ski that I only wanted to use occasionally on powder on and off piste. But I don't really know anything much about skis :oops:

With a bit of luck someone more knowledgeable will come along soon and help you with this.

Ian Wickham
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posted Mar-2013

How did you get on with them on the dry slope ??

Jadavi
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posted Mar-2013

They were terrible Ian, and never got going.
The few reviews out there seem to be quite contradictory but all of them stress they they are an 'any snow' ski. The width was mentioned to me in the shop as a plus regarding extra stability and control. A sales girl had just had a week with them in the alps and said they were the best she's ever tried.
The shop had a variety of pairs we discussed and they thought these fitted the bill best.
The width and the rocker effect was good apparently on bumpy packed snow and on ice it would not catch so easily to cause you to fall. Powder was supposed to be brilliant too. Yes I believe hiking is implied with the light weight , ally.
Funny, as 30 years ago I would love to have done that kind of skiing given the opportunity. I suppose - with guides now it wouldn't be out of the question but my budget probably won't run to that over the next ten years... But it might.
Maybe I'll call the shop and question them (but they don't really know of course, they have to go by the adverts too.)

Jadavi
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posted Mar-2013

Thanks for your responses, i appreciate your thoughts.

Ian Wickham
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posted Mar-2013

jadavi wrote:They were terrible Ian, and never got going.
The few reviews out there seem to be quite contradictory but all of them stress they they are an 'any snow' ski. The width was mentioned to me in the shop as a plus regarding extra stability and control. A sales girl had just had a week with them in the alps and said they were the best she's ever tried.
The shop had a variety of pairs we discussed and they thought these fitted the bill best.
The width and the rocker effect was good apparently on bumpy packed snow and on ice it would not catch so easily to cause you to fall. Powder was supposed to be brilliant too. Yes I believe hiking is implied with the light weight , ally.
Funny, as 30 years ago I would love to have done that kind of skiing given the opportunity. I suppose - with guides now it wouldn't be out of the question but my budget probably won't run to that over the next ten years... But it might.
Maybe I'll call the shop and question them (but they don't really know of course, they have to go by the adverts too.)


i suppose you can't really compare them correctly on the dry slope as all the reports are about snow conditions, so speak to the shop but I would really want to test them on snow .

Jadavi
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posted Mar-2013

Thanks Ian I will.
But I can't see them really changing their advice and the girl there loved them
Plus I won't be able to change them after I come back from Morzine next week I'd imagine.
I'll ring today anyway.
Thanks again.

Ian Wickham
reply to 'Intermediate on 'expert' skiis'
posted Mar-2013

jadavi wrote:Thanks Ian I will.
But I can't see them really changing their advice and the girl there loved them
Plus I won't be able to change them after I come back from Morzine next week I'd imagine.
I'll ring today anyway.
Thanks again.


Although they are quite wide underfoot on snow I think you will get used to them ...... Bon ski

Topic last updated on 31-March-2013 at 18:36