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Started by Alpinski in Ski Technique - 26 Replies

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Tony_H
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

So who's feeling guilty now?
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Trencher
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

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because I'm so inclined .....

Edited 1 time. Last update at 04-Mar-2013

TheoBane
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

Like as Trencher said, its going to be really hard on your legs if you were doing that all day. You can ski on the inside ski to realise your edges on it, or to pratice finding your edges with the inside ski. For instance, if your not getting the edges with the inside ski this would be a great drill to do to find the edges to improve your carving. But yeah if your skiing with just your inside ski, then your legs may hurt.

p.s. sorry about the post last night, was really tired when i got home and i dont think i made much sense

Nonproexpert
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

Trencher wrote: "The part that always seems to be missing, from most discussion of inside/outside ski use, is that it is talked about as if the ratio between pressure of each ski is fixed throughout the turn."

I cannot agree more that it is "THE RATIO between pressure of each ski" is always in play, not that one ski is pressured and the other is not at all, though some text books say exactly that. In reality, most skiers use both skis, so rather than talking about "pressured ski", one needs to talk about "a ski which is pressured more than the other" (I call it a "driving ski" but it is not a commonly used term).

If you accept this, then the more the pressure on the ski, the smaller the radius it moves with (the less the pressure, the larger the radius). In tight turns the inside ski moves with significantly smaller radius then the outside ski, so it requires more pressure. Once you overcome fear or prejudice, it works beautifully. Then you can fine tune it by varying the pressure throughout the turn, etc.

Also, when the speed is high and the turns are less tight, then there is no much difference between the radii of both skis trajectories and higher speed allows more inclination, so the outside ski can take more pressure and become the "driving" ski. It is like going into high gear. However, in difficult conditions (everyone has their own limit) skiers don't have enough speed to incline inside the turn and create necessary edging for the outside ski, so most intermediaries compensate it by supporting themselves by flat inside ski, hence letter A, while better skiers intuitively go into "low gear" - increase pressure on the inside ski and create enough edging.

In fact, what I am suggesting is not "a new ski technique", it is "a new approach in ski technique" and the name of the article reflects this.

Innsbrucker
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

I'm out of my depth. Must go and try it. As far as I can tell more weight stays on the inside ski in a carved turn than in wedeln. And more in powder than on piste.

The whole thing remimds me of the Echt Fett ski teacher video. Maybe I posted it before. Unfortunately it is only in German, but the key advice the teacher gives is 'the weight is always on the mountain ski, the mountain ski is always the right-hand ski.'
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Trencher
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

:lol: doesn't need language to be funny.

Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....

Edited 1 time. Last update at 09-Mar-2010

AllyG
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

Was that the instructor deliberately falling over in order to show them what NOT to do?

I've never seen an instructor do that - mind you, the rest of the class has me they can watch falling over instead :lol:

Ally

Dave Mac
reply to 'A New Approach In Ski Technique'
posted Mar-2010

I think that you will find that is a bit of spoof Ally. Having said that, we used to have to teach how to fall properly, and how to get up!

Topic last updated on 09-October-2010 at 13:21