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Ian Wickham
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Pablo Escobar wrote:Yes I have been :roll: Of course I have been otherwise I wouldn't be able to give an opinion on the place! We were very lucky with the snow in February, it rained the last day, I would never discount somewhere on the grounds of weather but a good snow record is a must. My father hated it too.

Andorra gets a load of bad press and IME, rightfully so. There are safer bets for your first skiing holiday.


It's all about opinions but I can't agree with that one... 8)

Tony_H
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Pablo Escobar wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:I would say avoid Andorra. Other than that you will love it 8)


Andorra, I have been twice in winter both times great snow, I don't know where the avoid Andorra comes from the place is fine 8)

Also I love Livigno but unless you get your accommodation right be prepared for walks and crowded buses !!!! 8)


It comes from long lift lines at at weekends, terrain with lots of flat spots and no real variety, unreliable snow conditions (this year excluded, I am pretty sure they have had one of the best on record) and don't even get me started on the villages themselves. There are better places to go, the attraction of Andorra originally was that it was so cheap it made a very easy option for a first ski holiday or folks without much cash to throw about but now it ain't even that cheap. I fail to see the attraction.

Long transfer too.


I have to say I find everything Pablo says is exactly what I have been told or read about.
It used to be the Magaluf of skiing, but the prices have gone through the roof and the resort is rebranding itself far more up market.
I love tapas and Estrella, so I might give it a go, but only when I know there is a shed load of snow, as the record is iffy, to say the least!
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Tony_H
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

AllyG wrote:Hi Coop,
I have no idea what Arinsal, Soldeu or Passo Tonale are like. However, the answer is quite simple - it's Niederau in Austria :lol:.




Crikey, someone got in before Mr Mac.....

Ally. I have been to N. I would not include it on my recommend list. Funnily enough, neither do WTSS.
It is all about opinions though.
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AllyG
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Tony,
I looked Niederau up on the WTSS.co.uk website (where to ski and snowboard). This is what they say:

'Niederau is the main resort in the Wildschönau and has long been a favourite resort with British families. Given decent snow, it is a good area for beginners and intermediates. It is quite spread out, with a cluster of restaurants and shops around the gondola station forming the nearest thing to a focal point. But few hotels are more than five minutes' walk from a main lift. The whole ski area is very small - you can ski most of it in an hour or two. A free bus goes to Auffach's slopes 7km/4 miles away.'

I have not been there myself, but some friends of mine have been there several times and they reckon it's marvellous.

Possibly picking ski resorts is like choosing horses for courses? It is very much an individual thing, which resorts you like/dislike. The trick is to try and work out whether you think you personally are going to like it before you go there and possibly waste a pile of money on an awful holiday. So you have to work out what is important to you and your family. Would you prefer a quiet resort, or a large one with a buzzing nightlife, and so on.


I mean, who could agree on which restaurant/hotel is the best in London, or which wine is the best etc. etc. Fortunately, perhaps, we all vary slightly in our opinions or we would all want the same woman/man/ski resort etc. etc.

Ally

Dave Mac
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

AllyG wrote:Hi Coop,
I have no idea what Arinsal, Soldeu or Passo Tonale are like. However, the answer is quite simple - it's Niederau in Austria :lol:.

I've never been there myself, but I know other people who have, and it's meant to be great for beginners and intermediates, and even some experienced people like going there. There are plenty of Niederau supporters here to give you more info.

I wouldn't take them anywhere too high because those resorts are a bit scary - very cold and sometimes very windy and no trees, so there's nothing to focus on and all the slopes look much more frightening if you're a beginner.

Also, somewhere with other kinds of activities, like ice-skating, ski-doos, swimming pools etc. might be a good idea in case they decide they don't like ski-ing, or the weather is too bad. I have been on 2 ski holidays which both had one day on which we couldn't ski because of the weather.

It might also be a good idea to think of places the schools take kids to. My daughter's school took them to Geilo in Norway (expensive) and St Johann (cheap). When they went to St Johann there was supposed to be no good snow anywhere, and I thought they'd all have an awful time, but apparently the beginners slopes were fine. I suppose they covered them in artificial snow.

If you want them to come with you on future ski holidays you need to make sure they have lots of fun, and don't get frightened or bored. So I think you're doing the right thing in thinking very hard about where to take them. And I'm not sure you can expect a 6 year old to ski all day, so you will have to think about that as well. They might get very tired and cranky, or they might want to ski all day.

I'd also think of somewhere with short transfers to the resort, especially if you have someone in the family who gets car sick or is easily bored in coaches. I find the mountain roads very sick-making - all tight bends. I can't stand more than about 1 1/2 hours without feeling like I'm dying.

I hope you find a suitable resort and have a great holiday,

Ally


Many good points here Ally, such as transfer time. Tony suggested Filzmoos, and that comes highly recommended. The Niederau ski school is one of the best in Austria, and the village is attractive. Stay at the hotel Austria, to make it easy for your family, it is close to the gondola and the nursery slopes.

Coop
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Some interesting points from everyone so far. It's definately given me other options to consider.

I've been to Andorra twice before (Soldeu 95 & Pas 99) but both times were with a group of lads. Back then, it was 'cheap & cheerful' but the beer/girls was just as important as the skiing...

As I'm now going with a wife & two young children, the criteria has shifted. My main priorities are ensuring the ski schools are excellent for kids and that there are plenty of off-slope activities i.e. sledding/tobogganning etc. I know Andorra has some excellent ski schools. I don't know how the Austrian resorts fare re. this.

Anyway, the update is that I'm seriously considering Katschberg, Galtur, Kaprun, Obergurgl, Niederau & St Johann (in Tirol) as serious possibilities. There is also a cracking deal for Morzine (departing 30/1/09)...has anyone been or would recommend?

PS - AllyG, thanks for the pointers...definately helped!

Edited 3 times. Last update at 16-Jul-2009

Coop
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Another thing....

What do people think is the best time to go skiing in Austria (or anywhere in Europe for that matter). I've only ever been in the first week of Feb every time. Are the conditions better in Feb or Mar? Or does it not matter?

Thanks again

Ian Wickham
reply to 'Recommendations for ski virgins'
posted Jul-2009

Tony_H wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:I would say avoid Andorra. Other than that you will love it 8)


Andorra, I have been twice in winter both times great snow, I don't know where the avoid Andorra comes from the place is fine 8)

Also I love Livigno but unless you get your accommodation right be prepared for walks and crowded buses !!!! 8)


It comes from long lift lines at at weekends, terrain with lots of flat spots and no real variety, unreliable snow conditions (this year excluded, I am pretty sure they have had one of the best on record) and don't even get me started on the villages themselves. There are better places to go, the attraction of Andorra originally was that it was so cheap it made a very easy option for a first ski holiday or folks without much cash to throw about but now it ain't even that cheap. I fail to see the attraction.

Long transfer too.


I have to say I find everything Pablo says is exactly what I have been told or read about.
It used to be the Magaluf of skiing, but the prices have gone through the roof and the resort is rebranding itself far more up market.
I love tapas and Estrella, so I might give it a go, but only when I know there is a shed load of snow, as the record is iffy, to say the least!


Pas is the lively resort, we stayed there and it was a resort for the young but we stayed here and found perfectly good bars and restaurants away from the crowds,Soldeu has developed over the years but has a good lift system now which moves any crowds quickly up the mountain.
But I think the real pro for beginners is the English speaking ski school which is a real benefit for the newbe's and especially children, I really wouldn't poo poo the resort for what you read in the guides they can be blinkered just like the coin system they use for evaluating the cost of staying in a resort. 8)

Topic last updated on 12-August-2009 at 22:05