A New T Bar Installed

They should be restricted to glaciers only! Horrible outdated things.

A great way of ensuring that the visual impact on the landscape is limited. Low rise/low tech :thumbup:

There won't be any really poor skiers at the top of the slope served by the lift -)

Drag lifts will be around for a long time yet. They are still being developed, they can now run at up to 3.5 m/s and one has been even been fitted with solar panels.



In 2011 about 20 new ones were installed across Europe.

I think drag lifts do less damage to the environment than gondolas etc. so I suppose they may become popular again, especially in particularly environmentally sensitive areas.

Won't T-Bars/drags always remain on glacier resorts/runs - unless they are built into the surrounding rock? I thought they had to move the support posts etc. once in while as the glacier expands/contracts?
I also hate them. I remember early trips to Crans-Montana, blowing a gale, minus 20, and holding on for dear life whilst being pulled over an icy drag lane.

All good comments...

More old drag lifts are being removed than built, usually two or three replaced by one chairlift. Usual resort answer to the environmental argument is the modern chair has fewer support towers, uses less energy etc than lifts it replaces. Right about horse drawn lifts though - Megeve just announced that's there big idea to link two sectors this winter. Alta Badia already have one. There are tens of thousands of drag lifts so they're not going anywhere soon... True about drags on glaciers and also in many wind prone locations. Engelberg made a big thing about getting a chairlift across a glacier only by finding a few fixed rock islands in the ice to anchor the towers on.

After ripping up a run I just like a nice sit down on a comfy chair. Perhaps I'm just getting old!

I usually fall off/nearly fall off T-bars so I'm not very fond of them either. I find them very embarassing to use :oops: