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Thank you :D More like the village idiot I reckon :P
So, we agree that it's not the equipment issue:)
You know what's really great about being a narcissist?
Me.
Thats boarderist.
I have seen plenty of skiers doing as bad if not worse.
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Started by Ranchero_1979 in Ski Chatter 12-May-2012 - 21 Replies
Iceman
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
:twisted: she is no moron I have you know :evil: ;)
The Northern Monkey. Jan'23 Les Arcs
Bandit
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
Iceman wrote::twisted: she is no moron I have you know :evil: ;)
Thank you :D More like the village idiot I reckon :P
Verbier_ski_bum
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
Ranchero_1979 wrote:Agree with VSB and OldAndy. Am sure both of you have also skied off-piste with say level 3 warning and thought was a reasonable risk incidents still happen. This is actually what draws people off piste, sense of freedom, responsibility, decision making and real risk even with guide that something could happen. I think is a bit naive to think that incidents can't happen, there is intrinsic danger in high mountains of avalanche from above, Serac fall.
Personally I have no ABS (I don't expect to be caught in avalanche) but still consider it my responsibility off skiing off-piste/glacier to have correct equipment. 30m rope, harness, prusiks, screws, probe, shovel, transceiver. Why because people make mistakes and I would wish to be able to assist. When you are looking at minutes in burial situation 1st person on scene has to be rescuer. Unlike crevasse etc anyway best option is nearly always to call in assistance. Avalanche is completely different, would your thinking be not to accept assistance if someone arrived where a friend or family member was buried because it was "your own mistake"? Would you be great full had they been trained and had modern equipment? I assume nobody would keep probing around alone and wave people past as "they knew risks".
My view is people always wish to push limits and sometimes this will mean incidents happen. Those people in vicinity enjoying same risks should be willing and prepared to assist. If those people who sometimes cut above you etc were encouraged to do a course and dig out a rucksack at 2m there appreciation for risk would change. I will still go for the fresh powder once it has settled and start on reasonable gradient slopes and stay off wind loaded slopes. Does that mean I have never seen a sluff where I thought was reasonable to ski on. No because whenever you're are on a slope, you are taking educated decision it is safe. If nobody ever took that, there would always be fresh tracks given no slope is 100% safe.
So, we agree that it's not the equipment issue:)
Bandit
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
Equipment advances have changed expectations.
Fat skis turn everyone into a ski god (sic)
The mountain has become a Theme Park, where everyone can get a thrill with an overriding assumption that it's been made safe by "the resort".
Not understanding that resorts have a finite responsibility.
Not comprehending that buying safety kit will not help you to survive unless you understand how to make safe choices in the 1st place.
Analogue transceivers still have the greatest range, but do need lots of practice.
Fat skis turn everyone into a ski god (sic)
The mountain has become a Theme Park, where everyone can get a thrill with an overriding assumption that it's been made safe by "the resort".
Not understanding that resorts have a finite responsibility.
Not comprehending that buying safety kit will not help you to survive unless you understand how to make safe choices in the 1st place.
Analogue transceivers still have the greatest range, but do need lots of practice.
Snapzzz
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
Brucie wrote:Narcissistic people with this years must have gadge - the GO PRO!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
You know what's really great about being a narcissist?
Me.
Skied: Arinsal, La Plagne, Alpe D'huez, Flaine, Les Arcs, Morzine, Les Gets, Avoriaz, Sauze, Courchevel, Val Thorens
Ranchero_1979
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbuk9AyEap8&feature=related
Check this one out and see if your more convinced. Incidently lucky there was more than 2 in group with the distance they were leaving between each other no chance for rescue from below. Nice to do long pitches but comes with a big risk.
Makes you think skins should be part of rucksack if only 2 in group.
Check this one out and see if your more convinced. Incidently lucky there was more than 2 in group with the distance they were leaving between each other no chance for rescue from below. Nice to do long pitches but comes with a big risk.
Makes you think skins should be part of rucksack if only 2 in group.
Tropicana
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
.....snow boarders that dont look where they are going and nearly wipe us skiers out!!!
Tony_H
reply to 'Things that bug you.' posted May-2012
tropicana wrote:.....snow boarders that dont look where they are going and nearly wipe us skiers out!!!
Thats boarderist.
I have seen plenty of skiers doing as bad if not worse.
Topic last updated on 17-May-2012 at 14:24