Carving mindset for Mike
Started by Trencher in Ski Technique 10-Nov-2008 - 50 Replies
Rossyhead
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzIkIQa3e0
Edited 1 time. Last update at 14-May-2009
Trencher
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
rossyhead wrote:maybe you have shared this video before but i thiink it goes through carving quite well-poss more the eruopean way than american methods?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzIkIQa3e0
That's a great video. I'd really like to watch the dvd sometime.
What I was trying to convey in this thread was really just one aspect of carving. How do you get solid edge hold and actually press the edges into the snow. It can be so confusing when people talk of pressuring the ski and pressuring the boot cuff, but really it's just understanding that you have mass and you can use it. Instead of just balancing on the ski edges around the turn, you can become dynamic in your movements.
Trencher
Rossyhead
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
Dustyfog
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
two questions : 1. how do you post film clips onto this site?
2. pros like you and klaus mair simply shift your hips from one "inside" and cross-over/under to the new "inside" and tip your skis on edge..interesting and a goal of mine to achieve - where does one attain this progression after learning how to let the turn happen due to gracity?
since i actually skiied with klaus m in lech-zurs this april(he is a class act in person) and he re-engineered my skiing since i have been skiing now one year (two seasons on skis) and thought i had improved till i ran into major trouble on the relatively steep slopes of lech and zurs. he focused on the up-&-forward move so i learnt how to let gravity turn my skis and thus get rid of my stem step/stem christie type turn..
here is clip if interested-1st 45 secs are good example of what i skiied like when i arrived..then next 5mins 30 secs are "training" and finally the last 4 minutes show me putting into motion my training..last 40 secs is me coming down a very steep mogulled up pitch on black at zurs, while some of my upper body rotation shows up, i was actually pleased that i came down clamly and undercontrol all the way, he taught me how to slide down steep pitches, slow, careful and relaxed..
have a look if you have the time...
ross - this is lessons with my pal klaus mair..the dvd costs only 29 usd, so definitely less than 40 sterling..
its one heck of a value investment...and the man is very responsive..
http://www.vimeo.com/4344290
Trencher
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
The slomo movie clips are actually GIFs, that you can make with some photo editors. I used them in this thread because they illustrated a point, but generally should be avoided on forums because they are large files and would make a page slow to load. I used photoscape to make tham. It's free at http://photoscape-download.com/new/home/?affebnid=147&gid=&ovid=&yid=&msid=&hop=howgood
I certainly don't class myself as a pro like Klaus Mair. Just a keen carver on skis and boards.
To really work on carving, you need some nice corderoy and a gentle pitch, where you don't feel the need to skid to control speed. Did you notice that in Dax's video, his outside ski is carving a lot of the time ? Having his legs spread wide apart means that in a turn, the outside ski is on edge and starts carving. Soon his inside leg will start to stay under him and later will follow the other leg to outside of his body. There's a video on youtube which teaches carving in a similar way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO0hjU5Vmuo There's also a series of videos on bootfitting and skis by the same guy (Bill Thistle) http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=raycantu401&view=videos
Trencher
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Rossyhead
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
dustyfog wrote:
he focused on the up-&-forward move
that might be that "foragonal movement" i was talking about..........
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Rossyhead
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
I agree with trencher it is only worth trying on the right terrain-much like anything new, is NO fun doing on chopped up bumpy afternoon crud!!
on the other hand i dont like how Bill explains it......
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Trencher
reply to 'Carving mindset for Mike' posted May-2009
rossyhead wrote:
on the other hand i dont like how Bill explains it......
I have an open mind about it. It seems a very natural way to learn and it's what kids do, if left to figure it out themselves. It may well be a drill that works for some people needing to get their outside ski out from under them.
Trencher
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Topic last updated on 18-May-2009 at 16:04