BASI LEVEL 1

AllyG wrote:Ise,
As I've said before, I pretty much never understand what ski instructors say anyway, unless it's something like lean further foreward, or stand up straighter, and I find it helps if I have some idea of what I'm supposed to be doing, and know some of their terms, before I begin the lesson.

One of my last teachers, for example, was on about avalement going over moguls, and I only knew what she meant because I'd been studying the book beforehand.

Ally

you've got poles... just poke them in the eye until they start talking English :lol:

AllyG wrote:Hi Ise,
Thanks, is the foragonal movement the one you do when you're pole planting, or do you do it some other time?

Ally

Ally,
Im sorry to choose that word-it was just one of the ones that stood out from the week!
It describes the start of the turn when you start to put pressure on the inside ski and move to pointing more down the hill (in the fall line). It is to try and promote you staying with the idea of being perpendicular and not having too much weight back.
The perpendicular thing made sense to me too-you walk at 90degrees to a pavement but when you ski a lot of us arent 90degrees to the hill

and before anyone has a go i dont profess to being a ski instructor, ive just done the course and found it useful!

Thanks Rossyhead,
I don't like thinking of inner and outer skis much either, uphill and downhill seem easier, although perhaps not when ski-ing on the flat!

I have a feeling the foragonal movement is the one you use when pole planting, when you start transferring your weight from your old downhill ski to your new downhill ski.

It is all very complicated. I don't envy you, having to first understand it yourself, and then explain it to your pupils (in simple terms, so us dummies can understand).

Ally

you're right though-the pole plant can be used as a starting point for the turn-as long as it is kind of "up and out" with a strong movement it will help keep the weight in the right place and not a short "flicked" movement near your boots

rossyhead wrote:

AllyG wrote:Hi Ise,
Thanks, is the foragonal movement the one you do when you're pole planting, or do you do it some other time?

Ally

Ally,
Im sorry to choose that word-it was just one of the ones that stood out from the week!
It describes the start of the turn when you start to put pressure on the inside ski and move to pointing more down the hill (in the fall line). It is to try and promote you staying with the idea of being perpendicular and not having too much weight back.
The perpendicular thing made sense to me too-you walk at 90degrees to a pavement but when you ski a lot of us arent 90degrees to the hill

I've read it three times I don't understand a word 8)

Ian Wickham wrote:

I've read it three times I don't understand a word 8)

Something like this maybe ?



Trencher

Ian Wickham wrote:
I've read it three times I don't understand a word 8)

exactly :-) it quickly turns to something unintelligible if not outright nonsense. Some limited sort of jargon is required when you're doing instructor training so we can explore the concepts or use a shorthand but there's no place for it in general use at all. It's pretty clear when you read a couple of other forums how this works, this sort of language is used to establish the posters expertise and exclude other people while often giving out the most awful advice at the same time and then it becomes some sort of arms race as to who can talk the most nonsense.