Pavel! How perceptive! Yes, the white jacket, it was the husband. He had skied on ahead of his wife. I guess he waited, and then skied on, and so he went up again and came down the same run.
When he arrived, he stopped in the area below his wife. After explaining what I had done, I asked him to move his skis across to the right, because he had stopped where the Ski Patrol would always bring the Achier, (rescue sledge), and that is normally, just below the injured skier.
The Frau was very thankful towards me, but the husband was not so. Ah well.....
I was so upset, I had to stop in the stuble at the bottom, have a drink, just to calm my shattered nerves.......
Well, that is what I told my wife.......
What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!
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yep agree with the last bit
In the US, many States have Samaritan laws which protect a person trying to help from legal actions. The laws are to encourage people to help others in need without fear of the consequences. It's always good to knows the local laws where ever you are
When I worked for the ski school I set dozens of broken legs ~ and we only had the use of aluminium wire cage splints. Basically, pull, twist, set, splint.
It was helpful that nearly everyone wore striped ski pants, ~ it helped to decide which way to twist... :twisted:
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Started by Pavelski in Ski Technique 05-Aug-2011 - 26 Replies
Dave Mac
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Sep-2011
Pavelski
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Sep-2011
Dave Mac,
I have a skier friend, who works in the "security sector". He once told me that there are two very dangerous contexts in his work.
1. Domestic disputes when police are called. Often the wife will attack the police once she sees "her man" being handcuffed and placed in car !
2. Skiing accidents. He is a patroller in a major ski resort. In a serious ski accident TWO patrollers are always called since often there is a "discussion" resulting in physical attacks! That husband had so much "adrenaline" pumping into him that he had to channel it to,,,,,,you! Freud called this displaced aggression!
My friend was hit last year from behind and thrown violently sideways. The shock generated so much "adrenalin" that he got up right away and said he was fine. We told him to stay down and wait for patrollers. He refused and skied down, got into his car and fainted from pain !
He had;
-fractures ankle
-fractured rib
-fractured clavicle
-fracture thumb
I rarely even touch a "traumatized" skier since in my area "legal litigations" are the norm!
I will set up barriers.
I will call for help.
I will wait for patrollers,,but to touch,,,,,hummmmm !
Ice has taught me to keep away from fallen bodies ,,,,well unless it is near a bar and she is ,,,,,,!!!!!
Have a great skiing season.
What size hands do you have ?
Pavel
I have a skier friend, who works in the "security sector". He once told me that there are two very dangerous contexts in his work.
1. Domestic disputes when police are called. Often the wife will attack the police once she sees "her man" being handcuffed and placed in car !
2. Skiing accidents. He is a patroller in a major ski resort. In a serious ski accident TWO patrollers are always called since often there is a "discussion" resulting in physical attacks! That husband had so much "adrenaline" pumping into him that he had to channel it to,,,,,,you! Freud called this displaced aggression!
My friend was hit last year from behind and thrown violently sideways. The shock generated so much "adrenalin" that he got up right away and said he was fine. We told him to stay down and wait for patrollers. He refused and skied down, got into his car and fainted from pain !
He had;
-fractures ankle
-fractured rib
-fractured clavicle
-fracture thumb
I rarely even touch a "traumatized" skier since in my area "legal litigations" are the norm!
I will set up barriers.
I will call for help.
I will wait for patrollers,,but to touch,,,,,hummmmm !
Ice has taught me to keep away from fallen bodies ,,,,well unless it is near a bar and she is ,,,,,,!!!!!
Have a great skiing season.
What size hands do you have ?
Pavel
Rodski
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
As have skied a fair bit on ice and grass skiing in Scotland & N.England my advice is always cross ice patches on your edges then get to a patch of snow to turn grass is much easier than ice. skiing in the alps is a dream 10x easier poor coniditions improve your balance
Ian Wickham
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
rodski wrote:As have skied a fair bit on ice and grass skiing in Scotland & N.England my advice is always cross ice patches on your edges then get to a patch of snow to turn grass is much easier than ice. skiing in the alps is a dream 10x easier poor coniditions improve your balance
yep agree with the last bit
Trencher
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
pavelski wrote:
I rarely even touch a "traumatized" skier since in my area "legal litigations" are the norm!
Pavel
In the US, many States have Samaritan laws which protect a person trying to help from legal actions. The laws are to encourage people to help others in need without fear of the consequences. It's always good to knows the local laws where ever you are
because I'm so inclined .....
Dave Mac
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
And that is how it should be, Trencher, although there is no such protection in Europe. I was aware when I gave the lady some relief from her leg position, that might be a risk that some nerdy jobsworth might find fault, or worse.
Instinctively, we will provide assistance, and for many of us, this will overide any thoughts of legal attack.
I tend to find myself in this situation most seasons. You have to do what you think is right.
Instinctively, we will provide assistance, and for many of us, this will overide any thoughts of legal attack.
I tend to find myself in this situation most seasons. You have to do what you think is right.
Iceman
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
I would like to think that if I fell over and broke my leg and some kind person did something to help the pain, and then at a later date I was told, "sorry, you will have a permanent limp because of the way the skier on the slope treated you....." I would not go and hunt them down and sue them!
People are there to help, not make your life worse!
People are there to help, not make your life worse!
The Northern Monkey. Jan'23 Les Arcs
Dave Mac
reply to 'What skiing on ICE teaches you!!!' posted Dec-2011
Iceman wrote:I would like to think that if I fell over and broke my leg and some kind person did something to help the pain, and then at a later date I was told, "sorry, you will have a permanent limp because of the way the skier on the slope treated you....." I would not go and hunt them down and sue them!
People are there to help, not make your life worse!
When I worked for the ski school I set dozens of broken legs ~ and we only had the use of aluminium wire cage splints. Basically, pull, twist, set, splint.
It was helpful that nearly everyone wore striped ski pants, ~ it helped to decide which way to twist... :twisted:
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