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Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?

Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?

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Started by Tony_H in Ski Chatter - 17 Replies

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Tony_H posted Jan-2013

Ok so 4 years ago I upgraded to new boots, the first generation of Solomon moulded liners, which were duly heated up and moulded to my feet.
I skied in them with no bother up until 2011 when I found my skis wanting to edge on the flat.
I took advice and had some smartfeet insoles fitted for 2012 which seemed to help a lot and felt more stable if that was possible.

However last week I noticed my left ski was trying to edge on the inside again and didn't know how I should proceed with looking to address this?
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Edited 1 time. Last update at 28-Jan-2013

Verbier_ski_bum
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

Ask a bootfitter to check your alignment. It might have a fairly simple solution - a turn of a screw.

Admin
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

Tony_H wrote:Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?

Do your boots have a canting adjustment?

Could it also just be your stance?

Tony_H wrote:However last week I noticed my left ski was trying to edge on the outside again and didn't know how I should proceed with looking to address this?

Difficult to diagnose over the 'net... do you have any video of you skiing (on the flat or a shallow slope)? An instructor, and possible a boot-fitter, might be able to tell a lot from that.
The Admin Man

Tony_H
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

Yes, they've got a canting adjustment which I asked the previous boot so called fitter to look at, which is when she told me to use an insole. Seemed to help last season but I'm back to square one again.
It's the inside edge of my left ski that wants to edge, which suggests my arch may be a problem.
Ill go see someone else locally who has a decent reputation and see if he wants to play with the canting. I had a feeling that needed adjusting before the insole was sold to me. To be fair, the girl did say I could get a refund if they didn't make a difference but I skied on them last season and they did feel better then.
Hmmmmmmmm
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Brooksy
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

I have canting on my old ski boots & I found that people didn't know about it or didn't want to know, so good luck with that one.

SwingBeep
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

The screws on the sides of the boot are nothing to do with canting. They simply align the boot cuff to your leg so that you can press on the middle of the tongue and should be adjusted by the boot fitter as part of the fitting process, very few of us have perfectly straight legs. Canting is either carried out by angling the sole of the boot http://cantology.com/how.htm or if there's enough room in the boot, putting wedges between the inner boot and the boot board.

Whilst Superfeet insoles are better than the ones that come with the boots they are nowhere near as good as a properly made custom footbed.

From what you describe and how you stand on your skis (I looked at last year's video) it's likely that your boots are either too big and / or the liners have packed out. The first thing to do is a shell check. Take the liner out and put your foot in the empty shell, with your toes brushing the front of the shell how much space is there behind your heel? Then find the centre of the shell and move the front of your foot side to side at that point, how much space is there either side of your foot? You might also have limited dorsiflexion http://www.gmolfoot.com/gmolfootbalance.htm

Trencher
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

And it may be none of the above (except maybe getting custom footbeds). Having a bootfitter punch out for my inside ankle bone, allows my feet to sit properly in the boots. Without the punching, I would need canting.
because I'm so inclined .....

Tony_H
reply to 'Is it the linings, insoles, or camber of my boots?'
posted Jan-2013

SwingBeep wrote:The screws on the sides of the boot are nothing to do with canting. They simply align the boot cuff to your leg so that you can press on the middle of the tongue and should be adjusted by the boot fitter as part of the fitting process, very few of us have perfectly straight legs. Canting is either carried out by angling the sole of the boot http://cantology.com/how.htm or if there's enough room in the boot, putting wedges between the inner boot and the boot board.

Whilst Superfeet insoles are better than the ones that come with the boots they are nowhere near as good as a properly made custom footbed.

From what you describe and how you stand on your skis (I looked at last year's video) it's likely that your boots are either too big and / or the liners have packed out. The first thing to do is a shell check. Take the liner out and put your foot in the empty shell, with your toes brushing the front of the shell how much space is there behind your heel? Then find the centre of the shell and move the front of your foot side to side at that point, how much space is there either side of your foot? You might also have limited dorsiflexion http://www.gmolfoot.com/gmolfootbalance.htm


I've had these 4 years and they were significantly smaller in size than the previous ones. They are most definitely not too big.
Also, you're saying you made a diagnosis about me from a video posted last year...........???????

Topic last updated on 30-January-2013 at 12:30