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Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?

Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?

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Started by Genxgeek in Ski Technique - 4 Replies

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Genxgeek posted Feb-2007

I just picked up some new Volkl AC4 (06/07) 177's and sometimes when ever I carve especially to the right my lower/downhill ski (left) skids out from underneath me leaving all the weight on my uphil ski...leaving me in a really bad turn. I'm assuming that my knees are too close together (a-frame) but I have yet to get back up on the hill to try and keep my knees the same distance apart instead of letting them get into an A-Frame type of position (also maybe I need to put less pressure downwards than laterally as well???). Any advice?

Also, the last time that I was up on the hill with a buddy who has some Atomic M11's (~170)he seemed to be carving a lot smoother than I could with my AC4's. I haven't seen myself on film but my buddy seemed to be carving effortlessly on his Atomics and to me I felt inconsistent since it was a little icey but some decent courderouy. I realize that the M11's are a shorter radius but just wondering what I can do to create a shorter tighter carve as the AC4's seem to want to run a little more down hill than carve up the hill like my buddies Atomics.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
My (Skier) Specs:
6', 188lbs, Type III

Trencher
reply to 'Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?'
posted Feb-2007

I looked up the sidecut radius of both skis. Yours is 18m and the M11 is about 12m. That's a huge difference in ease of carving. Your skis will carve tighter turns, but you will need to have your hip 6" (150mm) off the snow at speed to make that happen.

It sounds like you are having trouble carving the ends of you turns. There's all sorts of reasons why that could be. If you can find an instructor that can carve well (easiest at a hill where there is a ton of racing), a lesson may pay off.

I think it is easier to learn to carve on smaller radius skis or snowboard. You might try to rent some skis like the Metrons (>12m r). Try a less steep hill and maybe try to copy what your buddy is doing (if you like the way he skis).

Nothing makes a edge loose it's grip more than a lack of inclination and nothing reduces inclination more than a lack of angulation.

Good luck

Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....

Edited 1 time. Last update at 05-Feb-2007

Midfielder
reply to 'Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?'
posted Feb-2007

Post some vid if you can.

Edited 1 time. Last update at 07-Feb-2007

Fast Eddy
reply to 'Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?'
posted Feb-2007

Just one small tip that may help. Pay attention to your upper body position. I used to carve snow like I water skied until a pro pointed out that my upper body should be leaning more toward the downhill ski. The reason for this was to increase the pressure on the outside edge of that ski.
You've gotta try Skiing at SunPeaks!

DeeKaySki
reply to 'Carving - Downhill ski sliding outwards on me....Advice?'
posted Mar-2007

Genx,

I've skied (and Like) the AC4, but it does have a longer turning radius than many of the new carvers so it requires the skier to stay on top of it throughout the turn.

I also sometimes experience the 'runaway outside ski' syndrome but can self-diagnose my problem. That happens to me when I get a bit lazy and allow myself to ride the tail exiting a large radius turn. I also think that it can be associated with allowing too much tip-lead on the outside ski which causes that ankle to un-flex and reduces the amount of weight that is going down into the ski's sweet spot.

DKski

Topic last updated on 14-March-2007 at 21:39