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Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls

J2SkiNews posted Nov-2015



Adeline Roux, the manager of Courchevel's Tourist Information Office has taken the unusual step of speaking out about the plethora of resort rankings and awards that appear each autumn and criticising ski resorts that play the ratings and awards game.

"As a world-renowned resort, Courchevel is automatically included by ranking organisers. It is a brand that increases sales and attracts others which also lends credence to this type of initiative," said Adeline Roux, adding, "So far we have just let these rankings happen without jumping on board and it follows logically that the resort has never stood out positively."

But Adeline Roux has now decided that with an ever growing number of rankings and awards appearing, it's time for her to speak out,

"Having come to the conclusion that these rankings were very questionable and lacked objectivity to some extent, I have never wanted to involve the resort in these initiatives. This situation has now become detrimental. Never seeing Courchevel stand out positively, both the general public and the press may have believed ideas that are false or negative or do not reflect reality. It is therefore now time to speak out."

"Really you just look at who the organisers of these rankings are to realise that these private companies use the data collected for their own benefit," Adeline Roux stated, before listing some well known resort assessment and ranking sites and awards.

"I distinguish two major risks: First, on the pretext of standing out, some resorts and travel agencies have got into the game, making it easy for the firms organising these rankings to access their lists of customers and businesses. No information is provided about the way the list, that the resort has helped them obtain is used. If you consider the value of qualified lists today, and the price that firms are prepared to pay to obtain them, it is more than a golden opportunity to be able to get hold of these records! All this by simply dangling in front of them a position in a ranking."

"What surprises me is that resorts have not identified this risk factor or have not attached great importance to it. What's more, in the end, these rankings do not help tourists to find their bearings among the hundreds of resorts that exist. Choosing a ski resort is a very subjective matter which takes into account very different parameters depending on the people concerned and their tastes and expectations. There is no need for judgement in this respect."

"By backing these rankings, resorts are not adopting the right approach to obtain customers who risk being disappointed by what they discover. In my opinion, this goes against the intended effect."

Among the rankings and awards Adeline Roux is less than happy with are TripAdvisor and Best Ski Resort,

"Let me give you a few examples: TripAdvisor's ranking, which shows an average price per day, is impossible to check and is meaningless: in Courchevel we offer 48 hotels including 3 five-star luxury hotels and 18 five-star hotels, which is unrivalled and obviously raises the average price for a stay automatically. Showing the wide range of accommodation available in resorts would be much more relevant for tourists! In Courchevel, you can find anything from unstarred to luxury hotels."

"Best Ski Resort: this firm carries out on-site surveys on a non-representative panel of customers chosen randomly, without distribution of the tourists questioned consistent with the resort's actual segmentation. Moreover, in Courchevel, the pollsters behaved inappropriately and intervention was needed to put a stop to their actions."

"Finally, all rankings that require a resort to ask its customers to vote. It is obvious that a resort with a lot of standardised accommodation will receive more feedback than a resort with customers who are less enthusiastic about social networks or a resort with less accommodation."

"I am amazed to have seen how easily in the last few years Internet users reveal their private life on the web. It is almost with a kind of unawareness that they are even quick to hand out both their "intimate" and business details, without checking the use that can be made of them, in order to belong to a community or obtain a financial advantage."

"Dictators of the past tried to obtain personal information from people by force. They did not succeed. If they were still alive, they would choke if they saw how easily private companies today can arrange for people to give away a lot of information about themselves and their circle of acquaintances freely!"

"These rankings enable brands or destinations to use, without a professional code of ethics, private individuals' new behaviour on the Internet for substantial gain."

"I am fully aware that by refusing these rankings, the resort risks being sidelined and finding itself outside the system which, if it were to find credence over the long-term, could marginalise Courchevel."

"The important thing for Courchevel is to focus our energy on satisfying our customers and raise awareness of our resort. For us, being "better" is not achieved by ranking for all the reasons given."

"We have no time to devote to these surveys which bring no added value to help holidaymakers find the destination that suits them. It is useless and even negative to attract people whose expectations do not match the resort's facilities and it would even be counter-productive," concludes Adeline Roux.
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Brucie
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

What a ridiculous rant.
Summary - We don't care what people think. We don't want your kind here anyway!
Which is fine, because I would rather have my skin peeled inch by inch than visit Courchevel. So there!
"Better to remain reticent and have people think one is an idiot, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"

Daved
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

The whole rant did not make sense...Tripadvisor has 4 pages of reviews of various hotels and I hope they help people make a choice ..usually if you click onthem for a price you get a few booking agents to compare I really dont know what she is talking about..The few times I have visited I have found that the place is overpriced compared to La Tania ..a coffee next to the slopes cost me €8!

Dobby
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

What the...? She really makes me want to go there....

Andymol2
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Comes over as an arrogant rant from someone in denial of the truth. The only part of Courcheval I would chose to stay in would be La Praz - at least it has a bit of a real town feel rather than the purpose built concrete of the other variations.

As for the rest of it - the 3 valleys is huge and you certainly get better value for money in other parts yet ski the same slopes. No doubt they could come out with the old drivel that it's expensive to take things up the mountain but it's no more isolated than many of the French and other European ski resorts to justify the rip off prices. They saw the Rouble and thought it was carte blanche to print money at a stroke driving off their regular visitors (mainly the Brits) When the Roubles whent elsewhere there was little sympathy for the greed of the resorts like Courcheval.
Andy M

Edited 1 time. Last update at 05-Nov-2015

Stevie999
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

I must confess I love the 3 valleys, but the over priced and over hyped area of 1850 is best avoided. That doesn't stop the skiing being great of course. I do think she has a point about tripadvisor, where people are quick to type criticism rather than a compliment. Saying that, when I saw 131 Euros for bangers and mash at a restaurant (Le Chalet Des Pierres) it's obvious who their market is.

Verbier_ski_bum
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

When it comes to ski resorts I am not sure rankings make lot of sense, since people have different preferences. It's easier to rank restaurants and hotels, and these rankings would be less subjective. For example some people cannot care less if resort has any ski-in/ski-out accommodation, for others it would be prerequisite. Some would need a family-friendly atmosphere, some would prefer a party town. Some people like rustic, some prefer modern. Some people like wide cruisers, others prefer steep and narrow runs. All these will affect their impression of a particular resort and in the end may be misleading for someone else. And she is right that people often focus on negatives, again for them, but it may affect the overall ranking and won't be a true reflection.

Andyhull
reply to 'Courchevel Hits Out At Resort Popularity Polls'
posted Nov-2015

Reading the piece I get the feeling much of the context has been lost in translation.
I do often find myself scratching my head when I read 'resort A voted top resort'. And wonder if those voting have ever been anywhere else. Or more likely if the whole thing is a giant con.

Topic last updated on 10-November-2015 at 06:29