Can the atomic Neox TL binding be set into "forward" position as the old Neox?

Dear all,

I own a atomic d2 vf75 2011 for ladies, which mounted with a Neox TL10 Binding.

Today I saw some theads about the old Neox binding, what means that can be set into 2 positions. Man can adjust that by setting the shoe lenth. That seems very intereting, because I heard that a forward position makes women ski much easier. But I don't see that information at the atomic site. Is this function not more exist by new Neox TL? Ist Neox TL only a simplified version from Neox? :shock:

I'm sorry about my poor english but I hope you can understand what I said. Thanks for all input.

For hard snow conditions, moving the bindings forward can be a very good thing, especially for carving. Not everyone wants to mess around with this, but the manufacturers binding placement on an all mountain ski is always a compromise. Even on piste skis, the binding is often set back from the best position because it is easier to skid old school turns like that.

The new style Neox look as if they adjust the same way. The tracks attached to the toe and heel pieces lock together, and is held in place by a central screw. By rotating the small plastic piece 180 degrees, you can move the little windows in it backwards or forwards relative to ski. The tracks are then slid to show the mondo boot size in the window. This gives (if I remember correctly) about 10 or 20mm adjustment.


To move the bindings further forward than is limited by the window, you need to slide the track forward. To maintain the right mondo setting the number (displayed in the little window on the centre screw plastic piece)on the toe track needs to increase, and the number for the heel track needs to decrease by the same amount.
eg. If the original setting was 26.0, to move the bindings forward 20mm, you should see 28.0 on the toe track and 24.0 on the heel track.

On the old Neox, the forward pressure was adjusted with a screw at the rear of the heel piece. This should be sdjusted level with the plastic sides when correct (with the boot clicked in).

Disclaimer - play with bindings at your own risk!

Trencher wrote:For hard snow conditions, moving the bindings forward can be a very good thing, especially for carving. Not everyone wants to mess around with this, but the manufacturers binding placement on an all mountain ski is always a compromise. Even on piste skis, the binding is often set back from the best position because it is easier to skid old school turns like that.

The new style Neox look as if they adjust the same way. The tracks attached to the toe and heel pieces lock together, and is held in place by a central screw. By rotating the small plastic piece 180 degrees, you can move the little windows in it backwards or forwards relative to ski. The tracks are then slid to show the mondo boot size in the window. This gives (if I remember correctly) about 10 or 20mm adjustment.


To move the bindings further forward than is limited by the window, you need to slide the track forward. To maintain the right mondo setting the number (displayed in the little window on the centre screw plastic piece)on the toe track needs to increase, and the number for the heel track needs to decrease by the same amount.
eg. If the original setting was 26.0, to move the bindings forward 20mm, you should see 28.0 on the toe track and 24.0 on the heel track.

On the old Neox, the forward pressure was adjusted with a screw at the rear of the heel piece. This should be sdjusted level with the plastic sides when correct (with the boot clicked in).
Disclaimer - play with bindings at your own risk!

thanks a lot!I've tried it and think you are right! :lol:
the neox tl hat no screw but only a clip cover, any way I can open it move the toe and heel parts forward in the same way. I have a shoe lenth 275 mm, the underline for the heel track only 265, so I can only get 10mm forward. I'll try it on snow next season. )

Many more shoes!!!! ( great name),

When you play with the placement of the binding, please understand what you are doing. With the advent of the new shorter skis a "minor" adjustment has major impact!

By all means find your sweet spot,,,but remember, "less is best" , so slowly make changes!

Happy skiing.

Pavel

pavelski wrote:Many more shoes!!!! ( great name),

When you play with the placement of the binding, please understand what you are doing. With the advent of the new shorter skis a "minor" adjustment has major impact!

By all means find your sweet spot,,,but remember, "less is best" , so slowly make changes!

Happy skiing.

Pavel

thank you for the remind :mrgreen: I have already tried that in my summer skiing.
I didn't remount the binding, just moved the toe and heel piece on the track, unfortunetly I only have 1 cm to move forward (because my bootlenth is 275mm, and the minimum on my binding is 265mm), and I don't feel any big difference about that.

I think I used to get about 30mm of forward movement on the old Neox with 302mm sole length. That was definitely noticeable.