J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by mark203

A balaclava maybe be an answer there then?

Andy A wrote:mark203 - what've you got against snowboarding ? I don't think there's any evidence of one being more injury-prone than the other
It probably depends on how hard you ski/ride, and how hard and fast you push with both of them.

Andy I have nothing against snowboarding

I know that ski injuries have declined by 50% dur to release bindings and ski brakes since the 70s. Snowboards have neither of these so logic kind of tells me that if you fall over with both legs strapped to a board you are more likely to hurt yourself.

according to the internet

10% of ski accidents result from a collision with another person or object, 5% are lift related and 5% occur as the result of equipment failure

on snowboards forearm and shoulder injuries are most common 60%, followed by shoulder, then lower leg and head injuries

The risk of dying is 0.7 deaths per million skier visits, and 0.46 deaths per million for snowboarders.


The risk of death or injury

1 death in 1,000,000 days' skiing is the fatality rate for winter board sports.

In these terms, canoeing (1 fatality in every 750,000 trips) is worse - and scuba diving is five times as risky.

2.8 injuries per 1,000 days spent skiing or snowboarding is the injury rate and it compares badly with that of other sports. Parachutists, for instance, may be ten times more likely to die with each jump than skiers are with each day spent at Val d'Isère but, assuming they survive, they are two thirds less likely to be hurt.

365 is the average number of consecutive days you would have to be skiing or snowboarding before experiencing a reportable injury. If you spent the same time playing rugby, the chances are that you would not still be playing by the end of the year.

67,000 rugby injuries require a trip to Accident and Emergency in the UK every year, and studies of competitive rugby players have found there is one injury per person for every ten games played - or around two injuries per match. That rate makes rugby a more dangerous sport than boxing, mountain climbing and even - for those feeling patriotic - American football.

1 death in 8,200 pregnancies.

If all these statistics encourage a little risk aversion, then it is worth considering that by that logic we might as well stop being human beings - quite literally. Giving birth carries a greater risk of fatality than any sport.

Sources: Health and Safety Executive, Rospa, National Ski Area Association, British Parachuting Association, Ski-Injury.com, Sportsmed, ABC

PS this I found funny - Parachutists, for instance, may be ten times more likely to die with each jump than skiers are with each day spent at Val d'Isère but, assuming they survive, they are two thirds less likely to be hurt.

Yes it was my fault, I did not know my gf name. At best it was a misunderstanding at that point. That night I e mailed them confirming every travelers name,

Maybe I did not hear the phone ring when they called

Maybe I lost their emails when they wrote back

Maybe I dialed the wrong number and that is why I had to a pointless message that went on for ever

Maybe my phone bill is wrong

Yes its all my fault great company you book with them

I compared them with Ryanair, actually Ryanair had the decency to ring back.

Tony_H wrote:

mark203 wrote:

Tony_H wrote:Wipe out next week and the one following too, depends on area as to when they are off.

As for where to look, try the usual tour ops, including skiworld, look at www.catered-ski-chalets.co.uk, and some of the brokers like bookable ski, direct ski, skideals, snowdeals and Teletext holidays.

Avoid bookable holidays, they are like Ryanair come over cheap but when you try and book you'll find a booking fee added.

They screwed up when taking names over the phone despite me confirming the names via email they wanted to charge £80 for changing a initial

My cheapest ever ski holiday was through them. £129 for a week HB in Sauze, March 2007. It was advertised at £129 and we paid £140 each in the end, so I have no problem recommending them.

Good for you! Iam sure thousands of people had cheap holidays with them as with Ryanair.

I booked with them in 2009 for a holiday in 2010.

My experience was that they would not reply to e mails and when I tryed to call them I had to listen to a long message of several minutes before getting through, looking at my phone bill the cost was huge. They promissed to ring back, never did

Then they wanted to charge me £80 for a mistake which I consider their fault, I ended paying another £30.

They also charged £80 booking fee

If anyone wants to risk it, go for it!

one of these dream jobs

Pointed out to my cousin who has just switched from skis to snowboarding and hurt herself, that snowboarding is far more dangerous then skiing. She thinks not!

Googled for a while, did not come up with much, anyone got figures and what type of injury are most common

Tony_H wrote:Wipe out next week and the one following too, depends on area as to when they are off.

As for where to look, try the usual tour ops, including skiworld, look at www.catered-ski-chalets.co.uk, and some of the brokers like bookable ski, direct ski, skideals, snowdeals and Teletext holidays.

Avoid bookable holidays, they are like Ryanair come over cheap but when you try and book you'll find a booking fee added.

They screwed up when taking names over the phone despite me confirming the names via email they wanted to charge £80 for changing a initial

Like most years hoped to go skiing twice this year, the second time towards the end of the season, so been January hoped to go end of March beginning of April. But March seems to be more expensive then February this year

Now that the cheap airlines are not exactly cheap any more even Poland is pricey

Going to wait, see if I can get one last minute

Feeling I be going on a Spring brake to the med this year. Can't recall what a beach looks like.

Edited: for errors