New skis :D

I used the 171s in great corduroy conditions for a couple of weeks. They are a very easy ski to use. Aside form the tenacious edge grip when carving, you really notice how little effort it takes to use them, and how less tiring they are. I used them for a GS practice session, and although, I didn't see my times change much, what was immediately apparent was how easy the transitions were. I don't race enough to be really good at gates, and always feel rushed to make transitions. With the Palmers, I felt I had a lot more time. The clothoid sidecut is a smaller radius at the tip end, and a longer radius at the tail. This isn't a totally new idea, but is much more exaggerated on these skis. the smaller radius at the tip hooks into turns easily. The larger radius at the tail, releases the skis easily at the end of the turn.

I had both skis out on very icy conditions last weekend. The combination of decambered tip and tail, with the double sheets of titanium alloy, hold an edge on ice like nothing I have skied before. Irregularities that would have had my other skis bouncing around, had no effect on the Palmers grip. The decambered ends mean that instead of the pressure being concentrated at the tip and tail in a carve, the pressure is redistributed along the entire edge. The low profile tip turn up blends with the sidecut when carving to give a longer effective edge, and the titanium stops flap and vibration on unevenness, but also adds to the torsional stiffness.

Later in the days, when things got soft, and chopped up, both skis cut through the crud better than anything I have used, including the Metrons, which excel in those conditions.

I found this on youtube

Huard wrote:Interesting looking ski, I'm thinking about buying a pair.
With my reconstructed ACL and PCL in mind I'm thinking of staying on piste for 2 - 3 years, what do you think about them as a on piste ski?
I will phone the supplier today but I reckon I'll get an unbiased opinion from you!

I'm not going back on my XWings (coz i sold em) so was thinking about a ski around 160 with plenty of flex...

Do you think they are suitable?


Thanks

Huard

I think that especially for the pcl, a narrower ski, that doesn't stress the knee laterally is going to be best. These skis are less tiring and very easy to turn. I quickly found that these skis don't need to be muscled, and that my race boots were too stiff. I now use a softer flexing boot with them, which is again less tiring.

Alastair and Huard, If you do end up buying these, a word on bindings. Any Tyrolia, or head binding should fit the carve plate, except the rail types. I put the SL 110 on the 171s. It's a carve binding with a 30mm stand height. It ends up rather tall, which I like. On the 155s I put SP 120 demo binding, which is 31mm stand height. I wanted to able to let other people try the 155s. For a demo binding it is very solid, and I didn't notice any difference in feel from the SL. Huard, you might want to go with less stand height for your knee, the LD 12 is 21mm.

I'm hooked....got to have a pair!

The big question is what size!? I'm 6' tall and around 15st kitted up.

I was going to look for a ski around 165 or shorter to give my knee a little extra protection but cant decide...

Whats the your opinion?

H.

I don't like how this thread has descended from nearly-fat skis to skis for groomers :lol:

Trencher wrote:Alastair and Huard, If you do end up buying these, a word on bindings. Any Tyrolia, or head binding should fit the carve plate, except the rail types. I put the SL 110 on the 171s. It's a carve binding with a 30mm stand height. It ends up rather tall, which I like. On the 155s I put SP 120 demo binding, which is 31mm stand height. I wanted to able to let other people try the 155s. For a demo binding it is very solid, and I didn't notice any difference in feel from the SL. Huard, you might want to go with less stand height for your knee, the LD 12 is 21mm.

I'm still thinking of going for Kneebinding but cant decide.

H.

Huard wrote:[

I'm still thinking of going for Kneebinding but cant decide.

H.

Tyrolia have a similar heel release, the light diagonal heel.

http://www.tyrolia.com/en/public/ski-bindings/safety-features/light-diagonalsupregsup-heel/index.html

So maybe the Sl 100

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TYROLIA-SUPER-LIGHT-SKI-BINDINGS-SL-100-SILVER-BLACK-/280449256545

EDIT actually, that's not the LD with the safety heel