J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by ise

someone on PH had a space :

http://pistehors.com/news/forums/viewthread/195/

You would need the ABSF in the US :

http://www.absf.org/index.asp

I *think* it's not just skiers, I know some people who do this in fact.

Dave Mac wrote:Ise wrote:

what I'd pointed out and Dave blatted was that this is a totally spurious comparison, the statutory basis of mountain rescue is totally unrelated to health insurance. If it were related then your comparison would be wrong anyway as I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about how mountain rescue works in Europe, for that matter I'm not entirely sure you're aware how it works in the UK especially for helicopters.

Ise, how unkind!

Spurious? I made it clear that I did not understand the differences. What I was attempting to do was open the gate to understanding. In the UK, we are, in general,blessed with fairly useless, ill-educated politicians. They arrive at policies that will allow extradition of suspects from the UK to the USA without evidence, and without reciprocation. At least that policy is clear. EHIC is not clear, in detail, and it should be.

The provision of mountain rescue isn't related to health insurance so it's not a good idea to link it particularly if you recognise you're not entirely up to speed on it. To be able to jump to extradition treaties is like landing in a game of Mornington crescent )

Dave Mac wrote:This was meant as a reminder to J2skiers. However, it has raised issues that I don't understand.

Imagine an Austrian, Swiss or French person is walking in the Lake District. They have a fall and say it is of leg break seriousness.

They will be attended by our mountain rescue, helicoptered out, if this is appropriate, and have their injury treated.

I believe that all of this would be free of charge, especially if they can produce an EHIC. (Not that our NHS has any computer system that could read an EHIC card.)

Is it not the case that membership of the EU should ensure genuine reciprocation?

what I'd pointed out and Dave blatted was that this is a totally spurious comparison, the statutory basis of mountain rescue is totally unrelated to health insurance. If it were related then your comparison would be wrong anyway as I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about how mountain rescue works in Europe, for that matter I'm not entirely sure you're aware how it works in the UK especially for helicopters.

If you want to do a genuine comparison you need to factor in the mandatory premiums we pay in Europe for health insurance and the premiums we pay for accident insurance. Unless your point was the someone from the UK is getting a really cheap deal in which case you're entirely right :) Otherwise it sounds like an op-ed from the Daily Mail :-) :-)

Ian Wickham wrote:Checked the train out, Too many changes. I think I'll stick to the hire car.

only Basel and Bern isn't it? then bus or taxi from Frutigen. It Switzerland you know, the train will be there each time :-)

Tony_H wrote:They did a speed test on Snowfix.tv last season, and sent an AVERAGE skier down an AVERAGE run in Chamonix, skiing reasonably quickly but carving turns. The AVERAGE speed was just over 50 kmh, which is just over 30 mph. It doesnt sound fast, but I bet a lot of people think they are skiing a lot faster than that. Its fast enough to do some damage though.

never heard that but that's exactly what I would expect, if you were doing 40mph that would be pretty fast.

bandit wrote:I agree with ise about the potential for inaccuracy with the GPS measurement. I do have beg to differ about the speed of recreational skiers. I'm one, and I found it pretty easy to hit 51mph (83kph, Longines Timing), using a pair of rather tired rental skis. From the way it felt, I know there have been occasions when I have been somewhat faster.

If it a longtines I presume it was a closed course? Which was really my point, on a piste it's not very likely