Are you the king or queen of the mountain.

The 3.30pm closure means you lost an hour Tino, so you would be due another 6/8km or so.

What was your uphill time c/w your downhill time. Would be looking for a 4:1 ratio? Maybe 10/12km/hr downhill?

Now you have posted a benchmark, it becomes interesting.

You are dead right, when you ski alone, you can pack in more milage, because you can do non-stops, and you don't have to wait. Also, since you are setting you own pace, you remain within your own comfort zone, and so can use your energy capacity more efficiently.

It partly depends on the queues, as well, of course. Even if I was the world's best skier I don't suppose I'd manage to do 21 lifts at Courchevel during Feb half-term.

To win this competition, ideally you need to pick a resort with excellent, fast lift access right to the top of the mountain, with very long straight blue runs with enough slope to get up some speed, and no queues.

Ally

Queues are important, plus one's ability to errm negotiate to negotiate the queue. :shock:

I definitely would not look on this as a competition. It would not matter a fig should I fall behind any J2skier in a ranking order, as long as I had done what I did, to the best of my ability.

OTOH, 55km is the target. :evil:

I do feel that blue runs would not get you on the podium though, Ally!

Dave Mac,
I was thinking of the angle effect, if one was using a GPS to measure distance. Of course, it would be different if one was in a resort with the facility to measure actual distance travelled. And one can go pretty fast on blues as long as they don't have those horrid flat sections where you have to pole or too many other people to avoid. I don't imagine many people go straight down on a black without 'tacking' :D But perhaps you are right and it might be better to pick reds rather than blues.

I am only interested in the theory of how it might be possible to pick the best resorts, runs, and lifts to win. The weather would matter as well. Obviously one couldn't ski at a million miles an hour in fog, or in a blizzard. And time of year would make a difference. Longer daylight hours equals longer lift opening hours. And, no time for 2 hour lunch breaks, like the French seem to do.

Ally

Some good points here Ally, yes you do need some reds to keep the basic speed going, even in the Hahnemkahn there is a long flat section.

The time of year matters. When I broke the Niederau record, it was mid Jan, there were few queues, the conditions were fast but good grip, the light was good, there were some other fast skiers to latch on to, and the lift stayed open for an extra 10 minutes. There was no lunch break, I ate a roll from my pocket on the Godola, and didn't drink or pee all day. By mid afternoon, the queues were letting me through, all the locals knew what was going on, and were showing strong indifference. :x

Dave Mac,
I didn't know you'd already broken a speed/distance resort record. How stupid of me :oops:

The furthest I've travelled during one day was the day we did the whole of the 3 valleys in one day, and the instructor took us up Mont Vallon (I think it's called) in Meribel just for fun as it wasn't en route, and I think the red run down is the longest in the 3 valleys. We started at the usual lesson time in Val Thorens, skied through Meribel and on to Courchevel and stopped for the obligatory 2 hour French instructor's lunch break, and got back early with enough time to do another run just for fun.

It was certainly the fastest I've ever skied. And I was totally knackered by the time we stopped for lunch in a restaurant somewhere above Courchevel.

Ally

AllyG wrote:Dave Mac,
IThe furthest I've travelled during one day was the day we did the whole of the 3 valleys in one day, and the instructor took us up Mont Vallon (I think it's called) in Meribel just for fun as it wasn't en route, and I think the red run down is the longest in the 3 valleys. We started at the usual lesson time in Val Thorens, skied through Meribel and on to Courchevel and stopped for the obligatory 2 hour French instructor's lunch break, and got back early with enough time to do another run just for fun.

It was certainly the fastest I've ever skied. And I was totally knackered by the time we stopped for lunch in a restaurant somewhere above Courchevel.
Ally

That sounds like a strong days skiing Ally. The more you ski, and as your technique improves, the less energy you need, even though you are going more quickly. If I could glide as well as Admin, or Caron-a's man, I would be a happy, (and less tired) bunny.

AllyG wrote:Dave Mac,
I didn't know you'd already broken a speed/distance resort record. How stupid of me :oops:

The furthest I've travelled during one day was the day we did the whole of the 3 valleys in one day, and the instructor took us up Mont Vallon (I think it's called) in Meribel just for fun as it wasn't en route, and I think the red run down is the longest in the 3 valleys. We started at the usual lesson time in Val Thorens, skied through Meribel and on to Courchevel and stopped for the obligatory 2 hour French instructor's lunch break, and got back early with enough time to do another run just for fun.

It was certainly the fastest I've ever skied. And I was totally knackered by the time we stopped for lunch in a restaurant somewhere above Courchevel.

Ally

Ally
That's the beauty of skiline, it records the data so you can keep the memory of a great day like the one you spent in Courcheval. I would say we would all be pleasantly surprised just how far we ski in a normal day.

Finn