J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by ise

Trencher wrote:All mountain is a manufacturer's and reviewer's term for skis that doesn't normally include mid fat or fat skis.

Trencher

can I post this quick enough before Pablo refers you to the Armadas again ? :D

but seriously, that's a typo isn't it? mid fat is the archetypal all mountain ski in current line ups, so much that the two terms are all but synonymous.

Pablo Escobar wrote:All mountain skis? Allow me to refer you to the Armadas I suggested earlier :wink:

Therein lies another issue, define 'all mountain ski' :roll: I think the JJs are so they qualify!

that's an easy one, good at nothing :D whereas, a slalom or powder ski means bad at everything else etc etc.

Trencher wrote:

ise wrote:

Pablo Escobar wrote:Trencher, ski companies have been at that for the last couple of years :wink:

actually a lot, lot longer than that, the original patents (for skis) go back to the 1980's. More recently, around 2001 IIRC, the Volant Spatula used the same construction.

Apparently snowboard manufacturers are also doing some pioneering work on snowboard transport devices based around a pioneering idea called a "wheel" and have a pioneering technology called "fire" to keep you warm at night :D

As I said, not just rocker for powder skis. I was talking about carving and all mountain. As we have discussed in the past, ski manufacturers tend to follow snowboard trends because skiers are slow to accept innovation. Where are the carving/all mountain skis that are using these ideas ? These mixed camber designs are becoming standard on carving snowboards. That is still pioneering even if Volant had something similar years ago (for a different purpose).

Typical ski manufacturer, learns how to make fire and doesn't know what to do with it. Maybe they could cook the wheels they haven't figured out how to use either :wink:

Trencher

What we discussed in the past was how all of these snowboard innovations first appeared on skis, in most cases decades previously.

I know what the rockers are and I also know the engineering behind the designs with reverse cambers, as I commented the patent for skis was granted around 1980 having been filed in the late 70's and it was nothing to do with powder. Had you read the patent you might have been surprised to find it credits a patent granted in the 40's for skis with sidecut or side camber as they called it.

It's sweet snowboarding has reached a point where it's taking old ski designs trying to keep contemporary though ) It's a bit like your dad wearing tight jeans and thinking it's hip.

I can definitely top that, Somethin' Stupid by Nancy Sinatra & Frank Sinatra :lol:

It was supposedly, I could never see by eye the reverse sidecut though, it was pretty subtle.

Greg Stump films always had great music.

Crazy by Seal on Groove Requiem

Warriors of the Wasteground by Frankie and various Propaganda tracks in BLizzard of Aahs

Pablo Escobar wrote:Trencher, ski companies have been at that for the last couple of years :wink:

actually a lot, lot longer than that, the original patents (for skis) go back to the 1980's. More recently, around 2001 IIRC, the Volant Spatula used the same construction.

Apparently snowboard manufacturers are also doing some pioneering work on snowboard transport devices based around a pioneering idea called a "wheel" and have a pioneering technology called "fire" to keep you warm at night :D

bandit wrote:Blimey ise the Marmotte is looking a bit crowded :shock:

Looks like you skied down to Zinal through the woods?

Of course not, that's a wood near Verbier with Zinal village photoshopped in. There's several Belgians with helicopter bills that prove you can't ski through the Zinal forest :lol: