J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by ise

Trencher wrote:
There's always an exception to a general rule. Doesn't change the reality that if you run into someone who was below you on a run or track, the responsibility will likely be yours.

Trencher

that's alright then, if it won't be your fault then it's perfectly ok to throw yourself into the path of another skier, if no one can make me be careful then it'll be just fine not to bother :lol:

Tony_H wrote:Personally, I havent a problem with drags, but I havent been up one on a board.....although obviously i prefer a faster chair. Some of the drags in Serre Che were quite long and particularly vicious at the start, and many of the boarders I travelled with refused to use them, and they were a mix of experience.

It'll be a sad day if we lose all the drag lifts, in bad weather and wind they're a lot more pleasant to travel on and can operate when chairs can't.

Tony_H wrote:

gaz jones wrote:Remember, the blues are actually there for the learners to learn on

Interesting.

I missed that :lol:

What utter nonsense. Pistes are provided for all of us.

Tony_H wrote:
Let me tell you, experienced boarders hate button lifts too!

I've never found them a problem, I've always thought you're either able to balance on the board or you can't. I've found faster drags easier than slow ones though.

Trencher wrote:

The same basic rules apply on the road. Good luck telling the cop that the person you've just run into the back of , wasn't RESPECTING you.

Trencher

They do indeed, like showing other road users some respect or trying to avoid having an accident or driving with due care and attention. Or realising this is a multi lane highway and if you pull into the next lane into the path of the vehicle behind it will actually be your fault.

Trencher wrote: The responsibility is your's as the uphill skier, to deal safely with it.

As the FIS code makes perfectly clear the primary responsibiltiy of all slopes uses is "RESPECT FOR OTHERS - You must behave in such a way that you do not endanger others". The obligation of the overtaking skier to take some care doesn't override that.

tap your poles together s they hear you.

The trouble is it makes some people react with an attack of self righteousness and/or veer around erratically. Personally I'd have thought it was a courtesy to alert someone you were behind them but then a) it doesn't really happen to me and b) I'd know already.

KevinC wrote:I think there is a real lack of understanding as well - people ovetaking constantly on the narrow blue road runs which are particularly tricky for learners of both disciplines leaving no room to put turns in to control speed :evil:

It does seem so. There's no particular reason that not being able to control your speed gives you right of way, you wouldn't tolerate on the road or even on a pavement so there's no reason to tolerate it on ski slope. If you can't control your speed without taking the whole slope or track to do so then it's not the problem of the poor guy behind you who can. Skiers have no excuse at all, there's a perfectly good technique in the snow plough to control speed without taking the whole slope, it's more difficult for snowboarders but it's still a basic technique they need to master.

It's just like being on the road, there's no good reason the rest of us should drive at 20 mph on the slightest gradient merely because the guy in front has decided to buy a caravan :D