J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by Neiltoo

Sounds like you've got it covered. Don't wear the scarf whilst skiing though. I could scare you with stories about people who get them caught on ski lifts - but I wont. )

Have a great trip. :)

ise wrote:

I don't think you've got the hang of internet skiing yet :lol: You need to either say you're a 9 or 10 otherwise say you're a 2 or 3 in a knowing, ironic, self deprecating way that's designed to suggest you're really an 11 :lol:

:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

Dshenberger wrote:

ise wrote:

Trencher wrote:What I was trying to convey before is that carving requires a greater awareness than is usualy needed for skiing.

oh, come on, you're in cloud cuckoo land now :roll: how utterly absurd, it's the easiest of things to do requiring the very least of concentration or effort which is why most accomplished skiers move on to other challenges.

Interesting. Those racers are really a bunch of amateurs doing the easy things!

What I understood from Ise's post was that modern carving skis are designed to carve. Balance on the ski and it will do all the work for you.

Not sure which racers you mean, but World Cup slalom racers dont carve most of their turns according to Trenchers definition.

On a chemically iced world cup run most, if not all, are not carving every turn from start to finish, they try to, but dont manage it every time.

Trencher wrote:

I really don't mean to be offensive, but that is exactly what most people who don't carve very well say.

Well, in that case I'm not offended )

Everything you say about carving seems to be about skiing on nicely groomed runs - Skiing groomed runs is (or was) a small part of skiing for me.

I adapt my technique to the terrain and the conditions, if I coudn't switch from a carved turn to a skidded turn to a mixture of both when needed then I would have died in some of the couloirs I skied.

bandit wrote:

Hmmmm, when I learned to ski :mrgreen: straight skis with very little sidecut carved quite nicely on hard snow.

Perhaps those of us skiing in Europe, learn to carve turns without relying on the turn radius?

Bandit, I think those of us who used to carve on straight skis will just have to accept that we imagined it all, that we didn't really use them in powder, perhaps we never used straight skis at all and that multi coloured Nevica jacket I had was just a dream )

It does sort of follow that if you can choose which bit of a particular turn to carve then you could carve the whole turn (space permitting) if you desired.

Deciding to let your tails break out at the end of the turn (on purpose) isn't the same as not being able to carve.

Carving is a technique, sometimes useful, sometimes not ... it is not a whole new way of skiing.

Dave Mac wrote:I have not seen any mention of ski stiffness anywhere in the discussion. If one skis a softer ski at a given speed, the resultant arc will be greater than with a stiff ski, and so the turn length reduced.

Well, thats possibly because my original post was about whether or not carving skis were causing intermediate skiers to ski faster than their skill level would allow. :D

We have got off topic somewhat.... imagine that )

Trencher wrote:

Strange that all these people who carved for years on straight skis, don't have a single photo to show for it and was there no film taken of this common feat of skiing ?

I can see it now, on this weeks "mysteries of the world" documentary, the Yeti, the Loch Ness monster and carving on old school skis :lol:

Trencher

I think that you have a very narrow view of what carving is, Trencher.
Nothing wrong with that, but it results in people disagreeing with you )
In my opinion, carving is what the ski does, not what the skier does. There are many ways to get the ski to carve (body position wise) and many ways to balance on the ski while it carves.
So if someones body shape/position doesn't conform to what you see as carving then its not carving :D