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Ian Wickham
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

bandit wrote:No idea of the number of days Wickers, but I started using them in 2006. The ski shop might be a bit heavy handed with the edge grinding as you say!
I keep on getting core shots now, and it's odd because the base material always seemed very tough. What are you using to repair core shots?


AAahh well you have had them for a lot longer than I had thought, I must say that I have never dealt with a core shot, never had a shot that deep but as I type I'm searching the web for what is used other than P-tex for that sort of damage, I'll report back. :roll:

Ian Wickham
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Seems that the favourite option is a layer of epoxy at the base of the hole about half filled then the rest filled with P-tex, seems simple enough, I'll have to get my chisall out on an old set of skis and give it a go. :D

Ian Wickham
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Seems the preferred epoxy is the slow dry one, seems simple enough to do.

Verbier_ski_bum
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Dave Mac wrote:
bandit wrote:
I can't remember how many pairs I have :shock: but the She's Back are to replace my Stockli's which are almost worn out. I'll get the bindings switched.

Tony, I see that the user level suggested by Evo for these skis is Beginner/Intermediate. Should be just up my street then :D

Yes apparently, I too have bought beginner/intermediate skis, (according to the web sites!). I guess that is why I could only make 98.92 kph on wet snow.

BANDIT! I traded in my 210 Blizzard Firebirds in Colorado, after only 26 years of usage, and I felt then that they were only just worn in. How is it possible to wear out skis?


Maybe skis were made different back then, but after 4 years of use (possibly about 120-140m days total) my first ever pair of skis virtually lost the camber. Edges and bases are also prone to wear.

SwingBeep
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Core shots are usually repaired by first applying a foundation layer of Metal Grip (a mixture of polyethylene and heat-sensitive adhesive that adheres better to fibreglass and metal than normal P-tex repair material) to the exposed core and then filling the rest of the hole with the P-tex repair material of your choice.

P-tex repair materials are not made of sintered UHMWPE like P-tex bases are, as it's not possible to heat sintered UHMWPE to its melting point without changing its molecular structure, so the repair materials are made of softer extruded PE. Drip candles are the softest, p-tex string is about as hard as extruded base material and p-tex repair ribbon is the hardest (almost as hard as sintered base material) but it's harder to apply.

Alternatively you could use a 2 component methacrylate adhesive, such as this:
http://www.bondrite.co.uk/structural-acrylics/methacrylates/black-medium-cure-thixotropic-acrylic-50ml/prod_120.html just fill the hole proud, leave it set overnight and file / scrape it back to the level of the base.

The construction of top quality skis has changed remarkably little since the Blizzard Firebird era, although shapes and flex patterns have obviously changed enormously. They still have sidewalls and wood cores that are sandwiched between layers of fibreglass and in some designs aluminium alloy and they are still laid up by hand using a 2 component epoxy laminating adhesive.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSLsport#p/a/u/1/uPRW60ek1AY

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSLsport#p/a/u/0/SbwYTjDhI-0

A pair of 160cm Gotbacks weigh 3.38kg whereas the a pair of 163cm Auras weigh 3.20kg which is a surprisingly small difference when you take into consideration the extra with of the Gotbacks, perhaps it's because the Gotbacks don't have any sidewalls or metal in them and the core is made from soft woods instead of hard woods.

Edited 1 time. Last update at 26-May-2011

Bandit
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Thanks Wickers and Swingbeep, I've now got some Metal Grip on order from Edge & Wax. :D

They also have a Zardoz wax + Notwax blend in stock, which I'd not come across before...hmmm I'm going to try it, as I'm a fan of Notwax.

Wickers, please can you let us know how you get on with using slow drying Epoxy in deep holes, and which brand you chose.

AllyG
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

Why do skis get deep holes in them?

Ian Wickham
reply to 'OMG I'm in love'
posted May-2011

bandit wrote:Thanks Wickers and Swingbeep, I've now got some Metal Grip on order from Edge & Wax. :D

They also have a Zardoz wax + Notwax blend in stock, which I'd not come across before...hmmm I'm going to try it, as I'm a fan of Notwax.

Wickers, please can you let us know how you get on with using slow drying Epoxy in deep holes, and which brand you chose.


As my previous posting, I have not used any but my goggle search said keep away from the Loctite stuff and some of the forums suggested "West System Epoxy"

Topic last updated on 14-June-2011 at 15:26