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Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:07:46 GMT

I have a relative who is a very good piste skier and at times fast.
What do you think about body armour for this 27 year old man.
Something like this:
[url]http://shop.snowshepherd.co.uk/epages/es122028.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es122028/Products/SSDS1810/SubProducts/ssds1810-0001
or
[url]http://www.ellis-brigham.com/protection/dainese/780101/active-shield-02
Comments please.
Skistuben

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:43:46 GMT

Do they wear a helmet? I'd go for that first. Back braces are certainly worn more and more by the off-piste two-tone crew. Most injuries on piste tend to be to the knee ligaments. Then the head.

Volf

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:50:22 GMT

It depends if he wants to ware body protection ?
If your thinking xmas pressie I would ask him first.

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:51:01 GMT

Dainese are a top brand in the motorbike clothing industry. Not sure how long they've been making ski stuff for but I'd put my own money on it that the back protector will do a good job if/when required. The only thing I wonder is whether it would interfere with movement at all as it will be on the rigid side?

The other item looks to have minimal padding (it says memory foam on the link) in strategic areas. It doesn't look built for impacts on hard pistes and having re-read the text it does infer that the protection element is just a little added bonus rather than the primary goal of the item.

Personally I'd go for the Dainese back protector. Although it only protects the back, it'll do a damn good job of it, and the only extra bits the other skin thing has which that doesn't is some foam over the collar bone and ribs. I'm just trying to imagine what kind of skiing fall would result in a collar bone or rib break, and if it were to happen would the foam in those areas make a huge difference? I doubt it.

Mr W is right though. First question is - will your relative appreciate the gift?

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 19:33:38 GMT

Dainese have been in the skier protection market place for a number of years, offering soft and hard armour. Their skier back protectors are different from their motorcycle products are they have hinges. I use a Dainese Nextwave, it's very light to wear. I would say, that it's important to try any of these on items for fit before purchase, so they would not make a good gift.

I believe that the greatest risk for impact injuries is now on piste. Excessive grooming of slopes offering hard, fast surfaces, together with increased speeds and crowding is not helping.

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:18:43 GMT

I believe that the greatest risk for impact injuries is now on piste. Excessive grooming of slopes offering hard, fast surfaces, together with increased speeds and crowding is not helping.

Good point. There's been a lot of discussion around off piste skiing recently because of the insurance probs, but I'd rather fall in/on nice fluffy snow than on a piste any day. They are surprisingly hard! :shock:

Re:Body protection

Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:31:43 GMT

EmmaEvs wrote:

I believe that the greatest risk for impact injuries is now on piste. Excessive grooming of slopes offering hard, fast surfaces, together with increased speeds and crowding is not helping.

Good point. There's been a lot of discussion around off piste skiing recently because of the insurance probs, but I'd rather fall in/on nice fluffy snow than on a piste any day. They are surprisingly hard! :shock:

Give me a piste fall any day, as one of bandits photo shows what can lie under that fluffy white stuff .

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:38:48 GMT

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Still... pistes might look like fluffy clouds but they can be pretty hard!

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:40:09 GMT

EmmaEvs wrote:Oh yeah I forgot about that. Still... pistes might look like fluffy clouds but they can be pretty hard!

it is all about knowing how to fall ........ not that I can remember the last time I fell :wink:

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:44:10 GMT

Lucky you! :lol:

Yeah some of it is about knowing how to fall, but I don't think you can always have much control over how that happens. If someone comes belting down the slope straight into you, and you're looking elsewhere it would happen so quickly, how much can you really influence the landing? I'm not convinced yet...

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:11:02 GMT

EmmaEvs wrote:Lucky you! :lol:

Yeah some of it is about knowing how to fall, but I don't think you can always have much control over how that happens. If someone comes belting down the slope straight into you, and you're looking elsewhere it would happen so quickly, how much can you really influence the landing? I'm not convinced yet...

I never really worry about what might happens, I think it is very important to be very aware of your surroundings it is something I always try to drum into Little W.

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:24:32 GMT

I've no doubt you do, and good advice it is. Accidents happen though and it's not always possible to avoid them. Remember that vid (I think it was Tony posted it) of the airborne junior racer on that piste? There's got to be an element of luck involved that nobody was hurt there. I'm not suggesting that everyone should constantly worry about what could happen. That would spoil the whole experience and we'd all be jibbering wrecks on the slopes. :lol:

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:43:17 GMT

EmmaEvs wrote:I've no doubt you do, and good advice it is. Accidents happen though and it's not always possible to avoid them. Remember that vid (I think it was Tony posted it) of the airborne junior racer on that piste? There's got to be an element of luck involved that nobody was hurt there. I'm not suggesting that everyone should constantly worry about what could happen. That would spoil the whole experience and we'd all be jibbering wrecks on the slopes. :lol:

That is my whole point is peoples awareness when they are skiing, I realise that there is always a risk but you can reduce that risk, I have spoke to many instructors about encouraging that awareness but apart from stopping at piste junctions too many skiers seem to ski in a bubble unaware of what is going on around them, thats why I always bang on at my daughter to be aware of her surroundings.

Re:Body protection

Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:02:10 GMT

I agree :thumbup: