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Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:19:08 GMT

Hi

New skier just back from my first weeks ski holiday in La Tania in the 3 Valleys.

Had a great time (once I got out of La Tania as not beginner friendly slopes) until our last day when my partners skis were stolen from outside Le Sporting restaurant in Meribel, 50 yards away from the police station. We had spent most of our time in Courchevel as the slopes were kinder there and my partner had never been to Meribel and didnt know what it was like.

Skis and poles left everyday along the fences, on the ground etc and no problems at all. We had split the ski's on occassion and I guess we got complacent. We went for lunch for 40 mins to return to an empty spot where my partners skis had been. Totally gutted. Put a dampener on the holiday big time. Went to the information office where we were told it didnt happen often.....were directed to the police station, you have to go to the Gendarmerie and not the municipal. Susprisingly all the shop keepers have an excellent hold of english yet the police cant speak english at all, my french wasnt very good either mind you but I dont work in a tourist area.....The officer told us it happened everyday and handed out a form for us to fill in..... I take it it happens so often they have no interest in catching the perpetrators??? No CCTV??? No details asked for us to show where they were placed or anything. Perhaps the cops are helping thierselves, who knows.....they certainly did not seem interested at all.

So, if you are new to skiing and have all the new kit etc dont find yourself GBP400 out of pocket (depends if insurance pays or not, quick enough to take your money but hate giving you it back) swap and lock your skis.

If you are offered an almost brand new pair of Nordica skis and Leki poles without the wrist strap as its still attached to my partners gloves then please give me a shout......

A sour taste has been left in my mouth after this....as did the GBP5 bottle of coke from Bel Air lol....

Moan over....hopefully have something more positive if I ever go on another skiing hol....may just pray for good snow in Scotland every year.... :-)

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:01:14 GMT

I know it must seem a complete pain in the neck, but it seems sccording to reports it happens a lot in the three valleys area, in thirty years of skiing I have not experienced theft of any kind.
i hope the insurance company pays out. :evil:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:55:18 GMT

Hi Dixiefee,
Best of luck with getting your money back - and keep an eye on Ebay!

We've always hired skis, and it seems they don't bother to nick hired ones (at least we've never had ours nicked) and this time our skis actually had 'rental' or something like that written across the length of them.

I'm glad to hear you had a good holiday apart from this. I was in Courchevel a few weeks ago and I reckon it's a great place to ski.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:05:27 GMT

I think ski theft in Meribel featured in another thread so it does seem to be an increasingly frequent problem. On my recent trip to Flaine, I heard of two people having their skis nicked so the problem is not confined to Meribel and at least one of these were hire skis. :evil: :evil: :evil:

In fairness to the police, you cannot really expect them to get excited over opportunistic thefts of gear left lying around unsupervised. However, perhaps it is time for resorts and businesses to provide more secure facilities though whether we would be prepared to pay for them is a whole other question :shock:

I guess we all need to be more careful with our gear, especially as insurance companies unlikely to pay out if skis left lying around outside bars and restaurants. Apart from ski splitting, I am not sure what you are supposed to do - bringing the skis into a restaurant is obviously not a runner.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:19:34 GMT

It happens everywhere, don't let it put you off a particular resort. Keep an eye on them or lock them up - I wouldn't be surprised if your insurance doesn't pay out on the basis that you left them totally unattended for 40 minutes.

Resorts should start installing the skikey system - it really is great and gives me the illusion of security.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:26:36 GMT

What if a restaurant/bar had a ski check outside, with an employee to watch skis. From the sounds of it, they would clean up. Maybe the towns Chamber of commerce could operate ski checks near bars/restaurant/shops.

Trencher

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:48:03 GMT

Hey

Thanks for all the posts...

The skis were within watching distance but like I said we did perhaps become complacent and when nature calls sometimes you cant watch them 100 % of the time anyway.

The restaurant we were in did not have anywhere to put skis and there was nowhere safe to put them within the restaurant so obviously we followed suit of everyone else and put them against the fence line.

Perhaps it is time for these busy resort areas to take a bit of responsibility and install something where skis can be left securely, being new to skiing I dont know what the options are.

I do think in busy areas like the area of Meribel should at least have CCTV, they have it in Courchevel and I know from speaking to people there is not as much of a problem with ski theft over there, perhaps it is a deterent and extra patroling from officers during busy spells would perhaps work. I saw some officers in Courchevel and the only ones I saw in Meribel were in the office asking each other if they wanted a coffee lol...

Its happened now and we can only hope the insurance pays out. It has certainly put me off a little bit but perhaps this is only while it is still fresh, will keep taking lessons and probably pop to the slopes a few times, artificial and indoor snow ones and see what happens next holidays....

Oh and I have my beady eye on ebay already. Not that it will make much difference as we still have to prove the skis were ours, our little scottish flag stickers would no doubt have been pealed off by now...

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:04:56 GMT

Just get a simple cable lock. If someone is determined it won't put them off but it can act as a deterrent to the opportunist.

Next time you buy skis you should record the serial numbers (they are a unique identifier) which is the only real way of telling if they are yours.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:35:10 GMT

I have to admit I was worried going to SC last week and leaving desirable skis like my Neo's lying about. I bought locks but never used them in the end. Talking to seasonnaires over there, the only problems they have come across were people staying in bars at valley level late at night and leaving their skis outside unlocked or unattended, and sometimes they walked. Up the mountain, not a problem and I happily left my skis lying on the snow or in a rack outside a cafe where I could not watch them.

Opinion suggets that the 3 Valleys is much more likely a place to experience ski theft, it seems to be a professional business as oppose to mistakingly picking up the wrong skis.

Bottom line - make sure your skis are insured or get a lock for them. Meribel appears to be making more headlines for this kind of thing than anywhere strangely.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:15:32 GMT

Tony, clearly your skis are desirable to you )

Ski's lock em or lose em. Simple really :D

If your skis are insured, then your insurer will expect you to behave as though they were not insured, and be able to evidence this if a claim is made.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:47:13 GMT

Well, with the greatest respect regarding treating them like that, I reckon I saw ZERO ski locks in use in SC last week.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:49:52 GMT

Tony,
I am no expert on this matter, but I would think the insurers would take into consideration normal practice regarding whether skis are locked up or not - and I haven't noticed any locked skis on my holidays. My instructor didn't lock his skis when we went in the cafe for a short break.

One thing that surprises me about all this ski theft, is how do the thieves make off with an extra pair of skis from a mountain cafe without someone noticing that they are either arriving without skis or departing with two pairs of skis. I have hardly ever seen anyone with two pairs of skis - only the odd instructor carrying a pair on his shoulder, presumably after something unfortunate has happened to one of his pupils.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:41:07 GMT

I think most of the ski theft takes place in resort from what I have heard.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:45:32 GMT

Tony_H wrote:I think most of the ski theft takes place in resort from what I have heard.

Thanks Tony,
Maybe that would explain why we haven't had any of our hired skis nicked in the 3 V's. We only ever eat in mountain cafes because other than that we eat in our apartment.

Has anyone here had their skis nicked from a mountain cafe?

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:20:18 GMT

Someone tried (and failed) to break the lock securing my skis in the cafe rack at the top of the Trans-Arc in Les Arcs. A little retractable cable lock, I think they were after getting at the metal catch inside the plastic casing. I was sitting outside too, but there were so many folks around it was quite hard to keep your own kit in sight all the time.
Years ago now, but I do lock my skis :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:07:30 GMT

We never used to have a problem with theft in New Zealand but with growing popularity it is getting worse. security cameras are becoming more widely used at ski resorts here and there are full time security guards on duty on some hills now. damn shame that people have to ruin such a good thing!!

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 15:10:08 GMT

I was looking at my NFU Mutual travel insurance policy (for a non-ski holiday) and I happened to notice what it says about ski theft.

In the list of what is NOT insured it says this:

Theft of skiing equipment unless it is:
from a locked building; or
securely locked to an immovable object; or
from an attended vehicle; or
from an unattended motor vehicle, unless it is from a locked boot, concealed luggage compartment or glove compartment and force and violence has been used to get into the vehicle. Where there is no locked boot, concealed luggage compartment or glove compartment and there has been forcible and violent entry to the motor vehicle we will pay up to GBP1,000.

So, in other words the NFU Mutual wouldn't insure anyone for the theft of their skis from outside a cafe unless they'd locked them.

I wonder what the policy from the ski hire shop says?

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 15:31:27 GMT

If I was an insurance company or a hire shop I wouldn't offer insurance protecting against people leaving skis unattended. Like leaving your car unlocked with the door open :lol:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 15:35:37 GMT

Maybe I will e-mail the ski hire shop before we go, next year, because there's no point me paying for their insurance if it won't cover unlocked skis outside a cafe. I really wouldn't like to have to mess about locking skis.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 15:38:56 GMT

It is hardly messing about. Takes a couple of minutes at the start of lunch.

I always thought hire insurance was for damage to the skis such as core shots etc.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 15:50:28 GMT

I'm pretty sure they said it was for theft as well. But I never got to see the actual insurance policy.

How much does a ski lock cost, and where do I get one from (or has someone already said this?)?

And how big are they (more luggage!)?

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 16:04:36 GMT

Are these ones any good?

http://shop.packyourbags.com/acatalog/Ski_Locks.html

They look just like bike cable locks to me.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 16:10:13 GMT

I'd just want something that would put people off. GBP11 is quite steep, you should be able to find one much cheaper.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 16:23:52 GMT

Ski locks are quite small and pocket sized, but most of the cables can be cut through with a Leatherman type of tool. The retractable cable ones can be cut quite easily, and as they are plastic cased easy for someone to break the body of the lock. A bicycle shop might be a good place to look. Consider getting a small chain and a padlock, just as easy to carry.

It's quite normal for insurers to not insure skis left unattended and unsecured.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:22 GMT

I would think that thieves would go for the easy option of unlocked or unsecured skis, so any kind of lock could be enough to put them off.

Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 11:27:21 GMT

I keep hearing more and more cases of ski theft! I'll be getting a lock for the next trip. A friend even had their coat stolen this year! They went out for a drink in the evening, left their coat on a coat rack, then someone just helped themselves to it!

dixiefee wrote:
Susprisingly all the shop keepers have an excellent hold of english yet the police cant speak english at all, my french wasnt very good either mind you but I dont work in a tourist area.....

No offence, but why would you expect them to speak English? Even in UK tourist resorts, the police (and most others) ONLY speak English, and no one expects anything else!

You could have found (or paid) someone to translate for you.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 11:33:48 GMT

People in Europe generally have a better grasp of English than we do of their language. It is not ignorance on my part but generally when I visit Europe I fully expect others to have some understanding of our language. I attempt the local language wherever I go and know quite a lot but actually getting my Scottish accent to sound anything like French/German/Italian is near impossible.

Edit: by Scottish I obviously mean Colombian )

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 14:01:22 GMT

When I go on my hols I would not expect anyone to speak English, I tend to find with the French if you make a little effort they will always help you out, But on saying that with the car breakdown in France last January my Insurance company facilitated a three way conference call with the French police as there was no english spoken by them and my French was not up to scratch. :oops:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 14:29:17 GMT

I wouldn't expect one particular person to speak English but I have never come across someone that has no English ability whatsoever. Always try to speak to local language but usually when they realise that I am not getting anywhere they attempt to speak English and are often grateful of the practice.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 14:30:56 GMT

Pabs, we all love it when you try and speak English 8)

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 17:55:36 GMT

Don't you Colombian folks speak Spanish, Pabs? Or should I say Senor Escobar... :lol: :lol:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 18:27:22 GMT

Senor to you ;)

I'm multilingual you see.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 18:42:44 GMT

Keep on topic please

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 18:45:54 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:Keep on topic please

Pot...kettle...

but only if you remembered to lock them :mrgreen:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 19:20:39 GMT

Back on topic (which smiley is looking the most smug?). 8) :?:

How do you wrap the chain around the skis? Around the bindings and then the post etc. or what? So what length of chain/cable do you need?

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 19:54:03 GMT

AllyG wrote:Back on topic (which smiley is looking the most smug?). 8) :?:

How do you wrap the chain around the skis? Around the bindings and then the post etc. or what? So what length of chain/cable do you need?

Ally

Quite a lot of the cable locks are 0.9m, which I've found a bit short in the past. Many bindings have a slot on the heel lever, this is a good place to thread a cable through, or through the brakes as an alternative. Anything which will resist a casual thief.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Fri, 14 May 2010 22:01:42 GMT

bandit wrote:through the brakes

Whoa..... skis have brakes?? :shock:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sat, 15 May 2010 07:50:15 GMT

acarr wrote:

bandit wrote:through the brakes

Whoa..... skis have brakes?? :shock:

Not all, but most regular alpine skis have them. Most look like these :D

http://twintipnation.com/look-px-binding-brake.html

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sat, 15 May 2010 08:03:33 GMT

acarr wrote:

bandit wrote:through the brakes

Whoa..... skis have brakes?? :shock:

I didn't realize they were brakes until last year :oops:. I always thought those prongy things by the bindings were just so you could fit your skis together for carrying them. But I guess it explains why skis don't disappear down the mountain when they come off.

Bandit, thanks. I will have a look in a bike shop for a cable lock just over 0.9m long. The next problem I have is this :- am I more likely to lose the key, or forget the combination? .....

It would be a long walk down the mountain .... :cry:

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sat, 15 May 2010 17:30:53 GMT

AllyG wrote:

How do you wrap the chain around the skis? Around the bindings and then the post etc. or what?

Ally

:shock: Seriously?

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 16 May 2010 18:22:42 GMT

Ally

A couple of 4" nails would do the job,cheaper & less to carry. :lol:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 16 May 2010 19:07:19 GMT

brooksy wrote:
Ally

A couple of 4" nails would do the job,cheaper & less to carry. :lol:

What on earth do you do with those? :?: :?:

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 16 May 2010 19:12:41 GMT

AllyG wrote:

brooksy wrote:
Ally

A couple of 4" nails would do the job,cheaper & less to carry. :lol:

What on earth do you do with those? :?: :?:

Ally

Hammer them through your skis into the rack,job done. :D :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Sun, 16 May 2010 19:22:30 GMT

Oh, I never thought of that. What a good idea :wink:

The only problem is - I'd have to ski with a hammer in my pocket :D

Perhaps the cafes should take some responsibility in this, and provide lockable racks - something like a combination between lockable supermarket trolleys and those lockable lockers where you get the key when you put your money in and lock them.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 00:09:26 GMT

AllyG wrote:Oh, I never thought of that. What a good idea :wink:

The only problem is - I'd have to ski with a hammer in my pocket :D

Perhaps the cafes should take some responsibility in this, and provide lockable racks - something like a combination between lockable supermarket trolleys and those lockable lockers where you get the key when you put your money in and lock them.

Ally

Maybe the cafes should loan hammers to save carrying them. :D

Seriously though I did see lockable racks in Borovetts in the early 90s which you had to pay to use,& yes the types you describe would not be to much of a problem to install.
You would still find people not using them as you would have to pay, but they would at least have a choice.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 00:13:44 GMT

Every resort I have skied in Canada has Ski Key racks. Don't know why they don't catch on to this in EUrope.

(if you don't know what they are Google 'ski key')

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 15:16:38 GMT

Pablo Escobar wrote:Every resort I have skied in Canada has Ski Key racks. Don't know why they don't catch on to this in EUrope.

(if you don't know what they are Google 'ski key')

Thanks Pablo. I found it :D

http://www.skikey.com/ski-racks/

If ski nicking is on the increase, it's about time they started providing lockable racks in Europe. The racks don't really look over-expensive, and if they charged to use them I would have thought they'd pay for themselves pretty fast, especially if all the insurance companies refuse to insure skis against theft unless they're in a locked rack.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 15:59:05 GMT

Many places in the States have a "ski check", where you hand your skis in, and get a tag to retrieve them later. Some charge a small fee, but most are free.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 16:20:50 GMT

Don't bother about locks just buy second hand skis with a few scratches on them and the dirty scum Tea leafs will move on to the nice new sparkling GBP500 a pair skis. :thumbup:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 16:27:01 GMT

AllyG wrote:

If ski nicking is on the increase

I'm not convinced that ski theft is on the increase. Year after year ski resort thieves find an endless supply of holidaymakers who have checked in their common sense along with their luggage when they set off.

Probably the same folks who ask where the resort stores the moguls in summer..... )

Back in the early 1990's I was warned about not leaving my skis unsecured in Arc 1600, by my ski teacher. His words were "If you don't like your skis, leave them here, and they will be gone by the time you get back" (from lunch).

The only recent development I know of, is the organised theft using vans, of racks full of skis outside resort bars.

Why should insurance companies refuse to insure skis unless they are in a locked rack? That could put some mountain huts out of business, because they can't lay concrete for a stand base. Many are in protected areas.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 18:13:48 GMT

Don't need concrete - just a well designed rack.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 18:38:53 GMT

My insurance company is refusing to insure my skis for theft unless they're in a locked rack, as I think I said a few pages back. But that doesn't seem fair if the locks aren't provided outside cafes.

I would have thought the ski lift companies could pay for the racks out of the money they get from the lift passes - I bet the passes would only have to go up by about 10 pence to pay for them.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 18:54:11 GMT

Pablo Escobar wrote:Don't need concrete - just a well designed rack.

Do you think these will come for free?

With tamper proof cash boxes perhaps?

Why should an insurance company put the onus on a restaurant for the safekeeping of their policy holders property. Who sets the standards?

The responsibility for the safekeeping of the policy holders property, lies with the policy holder, shirley :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 19:00:54 GMT

Sorry Bandit,
I meant the insurance companies might all insist that the skis and boards were locked up, not necessarily in one of Pablo's lovely-looking racks, so chains/cables and padlocks provided by the policy holders would also be okay but much less convenient.

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 19:03:00 GMT

Yes. Don't quote me on it but the company makes the majority of their cash on the locks. If not free they are heavily discounted.

They don't need a cashbox. Click AllyGs link to the ski key and find out more about them.

If I was a restaurant I would take the initiative and install a secure place to leave skis. If people are aware of the issues then I bet they would pick the mountain hut with locking racks over the other one (assuming they are fairly similar).

There is a reason all the major resorts in North America have these.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 19:09:41 GMT

Pablo Escobar wrote:If I was a restaurant I would take the initiative and install a secure place to leave skis. If people are aware of the issues then I bet they would pick the mountain hut with locking racks over the other one (assuming they are fairly similar).

There is a reason all the major resorts in North America have these.

Pablo,
I agree with you on this - we are always looking for the next thing to keep one step ahead of the other holiday cottage providers. Like, for example, we now provide free broadband in our cottages and I am thinking about trying to buy a seasonal ticket so they can park for free in our local beachside car park.

I hope Snowbandit is reading this, so she can keep one step ahead of the opposition in the Alps :D

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 19:43:29 GMT

Pablo Escobar wrote:
There is a reason all the major resorts in North America have these.

I've skied a few major resorts in north America, I saw plenty of money making enterprises on and off the slopes, but none of these.

I think that we should resist the creeping Disneyfication of European ski resorts. It will only encourage the abdication of an individual responsibility.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 19:59:56 GMT

bandit wrote:

Pablo Escobar wrote:
There is a reason all the major resorts in North America have these.

I've skied a few major resorts in north America, I saw plenty of money making enterprises on and off the slopes, but none of these.

I think that we should resist the creeping Disneyfication of European ski resorts. It will only encourage the abdication of an individual responsibility.

I am just saying people should have lockable ski racks not that they should turn the places in to large scale Tremblants :lol:

Is it really too much to ask? OK it's mostly Canada but seems as if plenty places have them...

http://www.skikey.com/locations/

I don't know how anyone can argue against that concept.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 20:04:26 GMT

They are a Canadian based company so I guess it is natural that most of their business in Canada. With the strength of the CND I doubt they are so hot on exports right now.

A single ski rack would cost a European mountain restaurant about 100 euros (5 pairs of skis). If I owned a restaurant I'd be putting money in to buying 5 lots of racks and selling the keys. You'd pull your money back fairly quickly (assuming 'ski key' offer wholesale pricing). It makes great business sense.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 20:17:39 GMT

I have to admit that the skikey racks have been at all the Canadian resorts I've visited and my friends out there were really surprised I didn't have a lock already. I have to admit that they are really easy and quick to use and at least you then don't have to worry about your skis.

Think I will struggle next time I ski in Europe..... :shock:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Mon, 17 May 2010 21:31:30 GMT

Brimster wrote:

Think I will struggle next time I ski in Europe..... :shock:

I think you'll buy a cable lock and carry on as normal :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 18 May 2010 21:28:11 GMT

I struggle to understand how those of us who:

• worry about ski/board theft
• stress that all rescue bills will be honoured
• reckon a helmet may just save thier lives in a freak set of circumstances on piste
• wonder if a wee bit powder/fog/rain/slush will ruin a ski trip
• are certain that experiencing anything other than the brochure pics

...... can have a good and fun holiday. To be honest, it's completely beyond me and my comprehension of enjoyment. We do things like this to put excitment back in our safe, sterile and sanitary lives. Get a grip, take a chance and get on with it.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 18 May 2010 21:44:55 GMT

tino_11 wrote:I struggle to understand how those of us who:

• worry about ski/board theft
• stress that all rescue bills will be honoured
• reckon a helmet may just save thier lives in a freak set of circumstances on piste
• wonder if a wee bit powder/fog/rain/slush will ruin a ski trip
• are certain that experiencing anything other than the brochure pics

...... can have a good and fun holiday. To be honest, it's completely beyond me and my comprehension of enjoyment. We do things like this to put excitment back in our safe, sterile and sanitary lives. Get a grip, take a chance and get on with it.

I don't - I use a lock
I don't - I buy insurance that covers me.
I don't - I wear a helmet through choice
I don't - I reckon rain in the village means pow on the hill
I don't - I don't use Tour Ops

I just deal with the things I can manage, and get on with my life :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 18 May 2010 21:45:47 GMT

What I mean is:

• be sensible and minimize your risk
• accept and be comfortable with risk you take
• decide what risk is acceptable for you as an individual
• learn that if you are gonna master this, that you have to embrace nature
• that marketing is the bigger risk in all your lives

x

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Tue, 18 May 2010 21:53:14 GMT

See Bandits answer, that is exactly what I mean. It's thought about, rationalized and decided. Stop worrying, puck up your skis and get on with it.

If you chose to leave them outside a bar till 2.30am, then understand the risk and move on.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 08:21:21 GMT

I am not gonna lock my skis, I feel the resorts I attend are low risk and as Tino has suggested I just want to enjoy my holiday and not worry about what might happen,
I think my opinion might be different if I owned a Euro600 pair of skis which I never have or will, bandit knows what I paid for my last set of skis and I am more than happy with them, I
don't worry about a few scratches as long as the bases and edges are in good nick, I think I will continue to buy second hand skis in the future, and save my self a small fortune.

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 08:50:54 GMT

Wickers, I know where you ski, and usually when. Know you've told me that they will be unsecured, I could arrange a resale )

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 09:22:01 GMT

bandit wrote:Wickers, I know where you ski, and usually when. Know you've told me that they will be unsecured, I could arrange a resale )

AAAAAhhhh but next year it just may be a different place :lol:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 17:47:35 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Wickers, I know where you ski, and usually when. Know you've told me that they will be unsecured, I could arrange a resale )

AAAAAhhhh but next year it just may be a different place :lol:

AUSTRIA. :D :D

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 20:27:22 GMT

brooksy wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Wickers, I know where you ski, and usually when. Know you've told me that they will be unsecured, I could arrange a resale )

AAAAAhhhh but next year it just may be a different place :lol:

AUSTRIA. :D :D

Cheers Brooksy...which specific bit? :mrgreen:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Wed, 19 May 2010 21:21:18 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:I am not gonna lock my skis, I feel the resorts I attend are low risk and as Tino has suggested I just want to enjoy my holiday and not worry about what might happen,
I think my opinion might be different if I owned a Euro600 pair of skis which I never have or will, bandit knows what I paid for my last set of skis and I am more than happy with them, I
don't worry about a few scratches as long as the bases and edges are in good nick, I think I will continue to buy second hand skis in the future, and save my self a small fortune.

Ian,
Don't you think you might change your mind, though, if it was as easy as putting a coin in to get a supermarket trolley (and you got your coin back afterwards)?

And, I think you should put a tracking chip in your skis - Bandit's clearly got her eye on re-possessing them :wink:

Ally

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 20 May 2010 09:37:41 GMT

brooksy wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Wickers, I know where you ski, and usually when. Know you've told me that they will be unsecured, I could arrange a resale )

AAAAAhhhh but next year it just may be a different place :lol:

AUSTRIA. :D :D

I'm not that sad, just yet :lol:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 20 May 2010 09:39:46 GMT

AllyG wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:I am not gonna lock my skis, I feel the resorts I attend are low risk and as Tino has suggested I just want to enjoy my holiday and not worry about what might happen,
I think my opinion might be different if I owned a Euro600 pair of skis which I never have or will, bandit knows what I paid for my last set of skis and I am more than happy with them, I
don't worry about a few scratches as long as the bases and edges are in good nick, I think I will continue to buy second hand skis in the future, and save my self a small fortune.

Ian,
Don't you think you might change your mind, though, if it was as easy as putting a coin in to get a supermarket trolley (and you got your coin back afterwards)?

And, I think you should put a tracking chip in your skis - Bandit's clearly got her eye on re-possessing them :wink:

Ally

If the ski lockers where FOC I would use them but I don't think you get anything FOC in a ski resort :wink:

Re:Theft of skis Meribel

Thu, 20 May 2010 23:39:35 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

AllyG wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:I am not gonna lock my skis, I feel the resorts I attend are low risk and as Tino has suggested I just want to enjoy my holiday and not worry about what might happen,
I think my opinion might be different if I owned a Euro600 pair of skis which I never have or will, bandit knows what I paid for my last set of skis and I am more than happy with them, I
don't worry about a few scratches as long as the bases and edges are in good nick, I think I will continue to buy second hand skis in the future, and save my self a small fortune.

Ian,
Don't you think you might change your mind, though, if it was as easy as putting a coin in to get a supermarket trolley (and you got your coin back afterwards)?

And, I think you should put a tracking chip in your skis - Bandit's clearly got her eye on re-possessing them :wink:

Ally

If the ski lockers where FOC I would use them but I don't think you get anything FOC in a ski resort :wink:

The thieves don't charge you for nicking your skis, so that's FOC. :lol: :lol: