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Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:42:31 GMT

Hi All,

With Ryanair taking the P*** out of it's passengers with ever increasing hidden costs and scams ( although I do accept and recognise all businesses have a right to make whatever money it/they like/s) ,it's about time they realised that there is an honest upfront way to do business which if done propperly would achieve the same end result.

So if the 35,000 members of this site refuse to use Ryanair this season and use another carrier ,thats a painfull financial lesson for Mr Oleary....whether he would care is another matter...I will not now or ever use Ryanair....who's with me??? :thumbup:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:37:05 GMT

Hmmm, I'm not certain that Ryanair has any hidden costs, could you highlight them, and how they are hidden from buyers. I've flown Ryanair in the last 12 months and had no problems with hidden costs. I got stuffed at the airport for overweight baggage which is a different matter. It sells it's available services separately, which suits some people more than others. It tends to suit holidaymaker skiers, not at all. Bums on seats with holdalls in the o/h's and fast turnaraounds, continue to work for him, so why change.

As for MOL caring, I suspect not at all, though he may just take up the advertising banner space at the bottom of this page on J2ski, for fun )

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:47:28 GMT

Hi,

Maybe Hidden Costs was not the best description I could have put, what i am trying to get at is that rather than say the flight is only x amount.....but when you've booked end up with a significantly larger amount as they bank on you needing luxuries such as spare clothing etc ( luggage) why don't they just be up front and put the real or a more appropriate price on the flight....or am i just being daft? :D :D

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:01:05 GMT

Yes, I know where you are coming from (I think). As a customer of the airline, it was quite plain to see that most of the cost of my flight was made up of taxes going to two different Gov'ts and airport landing fees, in the UK the APD comes courtesy of Gordon the Grabber, the latter the result of some vicious bargaining by MOL.
The Ryanair strategy is to attract passengers with no luggage, and the pricing structure reflects this, so I believe that skiers will be put off without any action on their part.
If I buy a ticket with another airline and don't need hold space for a suitcase, I don't get a reduction :( Perhaps Menu pricing is the way forward?

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:01:27 GMT

Thieves, I will not use them until they return my Euro50 plus the interest, supply a written apology, and give me free tickets for a year, plus change their name to "Fly Wickers"

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:37:53 GMT

I'm with you

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:41:27 GMT

I dont understand all the fuss. Once you have gone through their website, they do actually give you a total price to pay. If you dont like the price, dont book the flight. Simple. How people can claim to have been caught out by hidden extras is beyond me if you now how to use the internet.

Personally, I have only used them once for a ski trip when I hired skis in resort and the flight actually did cost GBP40 all in, but that was back in 2006.
I wouldn't choose to fly Ryanair for a skiing holiday, not just because of the fact that they advertise 1p or whatever flights and when you add in bags, check in, skis etc it comes to more like GBP150 plus, but becasue I dont like not having reclining seats, or having to fight to get a decent seat on the place, or not having a storage area in the back of the seat in front of you, or being limited to 15kg of luggage....
My ski holidays tend to involve charter flights which allow me 20kg of luggage, more reasonable ski carriage prices, and a seat number so I dont feel the need to stand in a queue for the gate to open in order to have some kind of choice of seats, thus allowing me to spend more time relaxing at the airport and perhaps having a meal or drinks.

I think the days of Ryanair being dirt cheap are well and truly over. You pays your money and takes your choice.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:59:11 GMT

my misgivings are nothing to do with cost, more with attitude and policies

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:15:22 GMT

caron-a wrote:my misgivings are nothing to do with cost, more with attitude and policies

Ryanair have clear policies. Its all written down on their website. As for attitudes, they are not in business to win friends. I imagine that the number of people like yourself and Wickers who have a chip on their shoulder about using Ryanair and choose to boycott them is something like 0.something of a % of the number of passengers that fly with them each year so I dont think they'll be too bothered about a couple of people on a ski forum trying to start a small boycott.
I am sure those of you who choose not to use them have what you regard as your own good reason, but like I said, if you adhere to their rules and requirements you should not have a problem.

I am not sure what the exact policy is regarding disabled passengers, but the 1 person on my flight back from Girona on Monday night was invited to board the aircraft first despite not having paid for priority boarding.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:51:41 GMT

Tony_H wrote:

caron-a wrote:my misgivings are nothing to do with cost, more with attitude and policies

Ryanair have clear policies. Its all written down on their website. As for attitudes, they are not in business to win friends. I imagine that the number of people like yourself and Wickers who have a chip on their shoulder about using Ryanair and choose to boycott them is something like 0.something of a % of the number of passengers that fly with them each year so I dont think they'll be too bothered about a couple of people on a ski forum trying to start a small boycott.
I am sure those of you who choose not to use them have what you regard as your own good reason, but like I said, if you adhere to their rules and requirements you should not have a problem.

I am not sure what the exact policy is regarding disabled passengers, but the 1 person on my flight back from Girona on Monday night was invited to board the aircraft first despite not having paid for priority boarding.

I'm not playing anymore. You don't know my reasons and I'm bored now :mrgreen:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:04:31 GMT

this joke that came in my post this morning aptly illustrates why I don't want to fly ryanair

"A guy is sitting in the bar in departures at a busy airport. A beautiful
> woman walks in and sits down at the table next to him. He decides
> because she's got a uniform on, she's probably an off duty flight
> attendant. So he decides to have a go at picking her up by identifying
> the airline she flies for thereby impressing her greatly.
>
> He leans across to her and says the Delta Airlines motto "We love to fly
> and it shows ".
>
> The woman looks at him blankly.
>
> He sits back and thinks up another line. He leans forward again and
> delivers the Air France motto "Winning the hearts of the world".
>
> Again she just stares at him with a slightly puzzled look on her face.
>
> Undeterred, he tries again, this time saying the Malaysian Airlines
> motto "Going beyond expectations".
>
> The woman looks at him sternly and says " What the *##* do you want?"
>
> "Ah!" he says, sitting back with a smile on his face, "Ryanair"

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:14:24 GMT

We all know that Ryanair has no customer care and they really are the worst to deal with if anything goes wrong. BUT....remember that because of Ryanair you can fly from Ireland and the UK to most of the ski airports in europe for about 100 quid including skis.
Ok so flying is very different from 20 years ago when it somehow felt a bit special to get on a plane but its far cheaper now as long as you accept that you get what you pay for.
I hate bad service as a rule but I love that fact that I can get to the snow for very little even if the journey is a pain in the ass.
If putting up with rude ryanair staff means that I can probably get another long weekend on the snow every year, then I'm all for it.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:52:42 GMT

Tony_H wrote:

caron-a wrote:my misgivings are nothing to do with cost, more with attitude and policies

Ryanair have clear policies. Its all written down on their website. As for attitudes, they are not in business to win friends. I imagine that the number of people like yourself and Wickers who have a chip on their shoulder about using Ryanair and choose to boycott them is something like 0.something of a % of the number of passengers that fly with them each year so I dont think they'll be too bothered about a couple of people on a ski forum trying to start a small boycott.
I am sure those of you who choose not to use them have what you regard as your own good reason, but like I said, if you adhere to their rules and requirements you should not have a problem.

I am not sure what the exact policy is regarding disabled passengers, but the 1 person on my flight back from Girona on Monday night was invited to board the aircraft first despite not having paid for priority boarding.

Again we still have a right to voice our opinions and that is what I will continue to do , maybe I do have a chip but I stand by my convictions because I feel I have been mistreated by Ryan air and I reserve my right to not travel with them and believe it or not I will not.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:20:15 GMT

Good one Daved! :D

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:23:36 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Again we still have a right to voice our opinions and that is what I will continue to do , maybe I do have a chip but I stand by my convictions because I feel I have been mistreated by Ryan air and I reserve my right to not travel with them and believe it or not I will not.

Feel free mate, but theres no need to force it down other peoples throats just because you over packed your bag :mrgreen:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:35:49 GMT

caron-a wrote:

I'm not playing anymore. You don't know my reasons and I'm bored now :mrgreen:

You ought to try 4 hours of ski lessons a day......

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:55:41 GMT

Gareth Fair wrote:We all know that Ryanair has no customer care and they really are the worst to deal with if anything goes wrong. BUT....remember that because of Ryanair you can fly from Ireland and the UK to most of the ski airports in europe for about 100 quid including skis.
Ok so flying is very different from 20 years ago when it somehow felt a bit special to get on a plane but its far cheaper now as long as you accept that you get what you pay for.
I hate bad service as a rule but I love that fact that I can get to the snow for very little even if the journey is a pain in the ass.
If putting up with rude ryanair staff means that I can probably get another long weekend on the snow every year, then I'm all for it.

I understand where your comming from Gareth but that is still no way to run a customer orientated business, I'll be following with glee the demise of Ryan air :wink:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:35:00 GMT

I like Gareths comment about how 20 years ago flying made you feel special. Thats absolutely right, because now flying is accessible to almost anyone and we take it for granted in terms of getting from A to B. I have even taken short flights to Scotland for business trips to avoid driving 5 hours, something I never envisaged myself doing. Funnily enough, when given the choice between Ryanair and Easyjet though, I have chosen the orange planes every time.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:40:30 GMT

Tony_H wrote:

caron-a wrote:

I'm not playing anymore. You don't know my reasons and I'm bored now :mrgreen:

You ought to try 4 hours of ski lessons a day......

now that I can cope with

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:19:39 GMT

Im with Ian and Jon on this one I absolutly refuse to use them anymore and would rather pay double to fly with anybody else.

I can honestly say that nothing in my life causes me more stress than Trying to book a Ryan Air flight.

From the moment I go on the web site to the moment i return home i feel that they have gone out of their way to make the experience as unpleasant as possible.

The final straw came on a flight to Bratislava where they had cordoned off the departure area so that anybody who didnt have priority boarding about 150 people had to cue up between meter wide barriers that snaked back and forth to the entrance to the plane with no access to the seating.It was just like watching cattle at a market.

Meanwhile the 4 people with priority boarding had half a football pitch with seating for 300. The staff actually stood at the entrance selling priority boarding like raffel tickets. I completly understand the business model but its gone to far now and needs to stop.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:44:36 GMT

jonah690 wrote:

I can honestly say that nothing in my life causes me more stress than Trying to book a Ryan Air flight.

You really need to take a long hard look at yourself with comments like that

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:36:52 GMT

jonah690 wrote:Im with Ian and Jon on this one I absolutly refuse to use them anymore and would rather pay double to fly with anybody else.

I can honestly say that nothing in my life causes me more stress than Trying to book a Ryan Air flight.

From the moment I go on the web site to the moment i return home i feel that they have gone out of their way to make the experience as unpleasant as possible.

The final straw came on a flight to Bratislava where they had cordoned off the departure area so that anybody who didnt have priority boarding about 150 people had to cue up between meter wide barriers that snaked back and forth to the entrance to the plane with no access to the seating.It was just like watching cattle at a market.

Meanwhile the 4 people with priority boarding had half a football pitch with seating for 300. The staff actually stood at the entrance selling priority boarding like raffel tickets. I completly understand the business model but its gone to far now and needs to stop.

Yep the snowball is buiding....... :wink:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:19:41 GMT

Got to say never had any issues with them myself and if you read the following link the customer service may not quite be as derailed as some may think, free transfer onto alternative flights or an additional free flight if you need to go via another Ryanair 'hub' - granted it's another flight for them to cross-sell you things but 'acts of God' that thunderstorms are I would have thought they could easily have made you pay additional fares ...

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/notices.php?notice=gops&code=090914-thunderstorms_PSA-GB

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:29:44 GMT

Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:22:29 GMT

They seem to have a constant sale on just like MFI.
Lets hope they have the same fate.

Actually Tony your right i have taken a good hard look at myself and have concluded that reading your responses to both of the Ryan Air Posts causes me more stress than anything else in my life. :)

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:11:25 GMT

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:36:20 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

I was thinking of buying you a GBP1 flight Wickers. One way of course.....

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:05:06 GMT

Tony_H wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

I was thinking of buying you a GBP1 flight Wickers. One way of course.....

Austria I bet :twisted:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:48:42 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Tony_H wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

I was thinking of buying you a GBP1 flight Wickers. One way of course.....

Austria I bet :twisted:

Tony, I'll go halvers with you on the GBP1.00. I'd even go to Mayrhofen to achieve that result! :wink:
What a breakthrough for Wickers.
What a breakthrough for Austria.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:32:17 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Tony_H wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

I was thinking of buying you a GBP1 flight Wickers. One way of course.....

Austria I bet :twisted:

Tony, I'll go halvers with you on the GBP1.00. I'd even go to Mayrhofen to achieve that result! :wink:
What a breakthrough for Wickers.
What a breakthrough for Austria.

That, Gents, sounds like a date to me.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:36:58 GMT

jonah690 wrote:They seem to have a constant sale on just like MFI.
Lets hope they have the same fate.

Actually Tony your right i have taken a good hard look at myself and have concluded that reading your responses to both of the Ryan Air Posts causes me more stress than anything else in my life. :)

Sorry Jonah, maybe I was a little bit blunt earlier. But when I read that you said booking a Ryanair flight causes you more stress than anything else in your life, it made me think of things like my Dad dying from a stroke 11 years ago, my brother in law having a breakdown, and the car crash my sister in law had when she nearly lost a leg, amongst other things, and wondering how something like booking a flight online could possibly come close.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:38:27 GMT

Tony_H wrote:

Dave Mac wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Tony_H wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Ryanair have a sale on today, just for a few days. Flights for GBP1 including taxes, but not including the usual extras like luggage.

Just for Wickers :D

Now now thats enough of that, see the plan is working, having to sell flights for a GBP1. I'm bring them down slowly another few weeks and I'll make a GBP1 bid for the company then it will be "fly wickers" :thumbup: :thumbup:

I was thinking of buying you a GBP1 flight Wickers. One way of course.....

Austria I bet :twisted:

Tony, I'll go halvers with you on the GBP1.00. I'd even go to Mayrhofen to achieve that result! :wink:
What a breakthrough for Wickers.
What a breakthrough for Austria.

That, Gents, sounds like a date to me.

Wickers is prepared to abandon his principles and fly Ryanair. Remember where you read it 1st 8)
His principles can be purchased for .....GBP1 :shock:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:14:16 GMT

Hang on Bandit, Wickers has not agreed anything, thats just Dave Mac's suggestion. I was more surprised by Dave's willingness to go to "M" )

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:17:46 GMT

Tony_H wrote:Hang on Bandit, Wickers has not agreed anything, thats just Dave Mac's suggestion. I was more surprised by Dave's willingness to go to "M" )

I just thought I'd advance things a little :mrgreen:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:08:56 GMT

bandit wrote: [... aaargghh my eyes hurt... :cry: Oi, Wickers enough with the mega-nested quotes already... snip snip, Admin]

There is no chance of me flying for a quid till they return my Euro50 :twisted:

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:20:45 GMT

Tony_H wrote:Hang on Bandit, Wickers has not agreed anything, thats just Dave Mac's suggestion. I was more surprised by Dave's willingness to go to "M" )

I want to ski in soo many places Tony. I don't treat my skiing as a "tick list", but I do have a lot of places that I want to ski, too many to list, and many that I want to ski again, Vail, Arapahoe Basin, Zermatt. And one special place in America to ski with a special person.
Hence it is that Mayrhofen isn't listed in my mind. Not that I don't want to go there, I do. I have done some Zillertal skiing, and would like to do the Tux.

I had given consideration to dropping off into the Zillertal for a day, when on the way from the Arlberg to Tirol on my January trip. Concluded that it would be driven by fantasy, and impractical with a rucsac and ski gear. Neither would it achieve what I would want to get out of the locale.

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:03:19 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:And one special place in America to ski with a special person.

can I come too please :D

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:41:43 GMT

caron-a wrote:

Dave Mac wrote:And one special place in America to ski with a special person.

can I come too please :D

You bet! What a team! I am drumming up some of my cards to send there, same as you have, but now a little expanded!

Re:Vote With Your Wallets And Boycott Ryanair This Season

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:40:57 GMT

I'll look forward to seeing them Dave :thumbup: