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What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:50:12 GMT

Does anybody else think like me ??

The week before I head out for a ski trip, I start to take things a little easier, The last thing I want is an injury, before I have even hit the slopes :-(

So things I do NOT do before a trip away.

1. I do NOT go to the gym, in case I put my back out.
2. I do NOT go for that game of squash, the one that the boss has ask me to go for and if I go I know promotion is on the way, but just in cash I twist my ankle " I say no!!"
3. I do NOT lift all them heavy cylinders( I am a scuba Instructor) in case I pull a muscle in my shoulder..
4. I do NOT run for the bus, in case I trip and smash my head open on the very bad Spanish pavements.
5. I do NOT drink so much at night, in case I fall down the stairs, AGAIN !!
6. I do NOT lose my passport, as it would be impossible to get a new one here in Spain and if I could, it would surly mean rushing around trying to find all the forms, photo's and the embassy. Think of the possible injuries that may cause !!

So bearing in mind the above, how come this morning just 5 hours away from going on the big bird to skiing land, I reach for my cup of coffee on the table and pull a muscle in my neck !!

HOW !! how does this happen ??

So my question is what do you NOT do before you go on a skiing trip ??

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:54:23 GMT

exactly as above, well similar but i have been put on a resisential course with year 10 girls monday and tuesday and the good news is we are doing, raft making, canoeing, high wire, caving and abseiling wooohooo, will loosen the legs up ready but hey bit close to the hols, never mind fingerrs crossed, not amused :evil:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:57:44 GMT

You are living life on a knife edge !! Sooooo close to a ski trip !!

I can smell the TSP after your high wire act :-)

But still, have fun !!

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:06:40 GMT

have fun are you joking i am going with 14/15 year old hormonal teenage girls and boys, i have plumped for the 12-2 night watch as well ggggggrrrrrr

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:12:28 GMT

12-2 Night watch ??

You make them sound like convicts !! They are just children ;-) Aren't they ??

I hear Prozac can be very calming, for the nerves !! :-)

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:03:39 GMT

children are you joking, when you get passed the make-up hair styles and bravado i suppose so, yes a 2 hour night watch you never know better safe than sorry.

i hoping all the activities wear them out. prior to boo boo's

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:50:56 GMT

If I end up avoiding things I hurt myself so just carry on as per, excluding football. I stopped playing 5's and 11's all together this season :lol:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:27:26 GMT

I woke up this morning with a stiff................neck. Its hurting more now as the day goes by, and pulls when I turn to the right. This happens every so often and lasts a few days. I fly tomorrow, so this has happened at just the wrong time :evil:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:46:08 GMT

I think this may be another case of Murphy's law !!

What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:57:18 GMT

ski&dive. wrote:
Does anybody else think like me ??

The week before I head out for a ski trip, I start to take things a little easier, The last thing I want is an injury, before I have even hit the slopes :-(

So things I do NOT do before a trip away.

1. I do NOT go to the gym, in case I put my back out.
2. I do NOT go for that game of squash, the one that the boss has ask me to go for and if I go I know promotion is on the way, but just in cash I twist my ankle " I say no!!"
3. I do NOT lift all them heavy cylinders( I am a scuba Instructor) in case I pull a muscle in my shoulder..
4. I do NOT run for the bus, in case I trip and smash my head open on the very bad Spanish pavements.
5. I do NOT drink so much at night, in case I fall down the stairs, AGAIN !!
6. I do NOT lose my passport, as it would be impossible to get a new one here in Spain and if I could, it would surly mean rushing around trying to find all the forms, photo's and the embassy. Think of the possible injuries that may cause !!

So bearing in mind the above, how come this morning just 5 hours away from going on the big bird to skiing land, I reach for my cup of coffee on the table and pull a muscle in my neck !!

HOW !! how does this happen ??

So my question is what do you NOT do before you go on a skiing trip ??

Haha, I have given up squash entirely because of snowboarding. I keep fracturing my ribs and the impact of hitting walls etc means they never heel properly, snowboarded all winter with 2 cracked ribs, bloody terrible in the morning.

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:12:46 GMT

Things i wouldnt again before going skiing, include having an operation....

After an interesting car accident (photos available !) back in the late 80's, I had been walking around with a 17 inch pin inside the top half of my leg where the marrow is for a year. A month before going skiing (beginners course) it was decided to take it out. What i hadnt realised was that dislocating my leg to get the pin out would also rip/tear every muscle at the top of my leg.

And that i would be back on crutches / walking stick. :shock:

So, nearly every day i was down a sports injury clinic, bought a bullworker, exercise bike and worked like mad (for me anyway). I seem to recall even taking the walking stick with me (to La Clusaz), and on day 1 being very nervous as to whether my leg would hold up.

It was ok on skis, but on the drag lift :cry:

But, in the future i would definitely check up more on the after effects of any surgery !

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:59:03 GMT

amanda n wrote:children are you joking, when you get passed the make-up hair styles and bravado i suppose so, yes a 2 hour night watch you never know better safe than sorry.

i hoping all the activities wear them out. prior to boo boo's

your chances of being hurt are pretty much non-existent doing the activities, in risk terms you're greatest danger is from transport, roads and unsupervised water activities.

and the bad news, most kids take at least one night and often two before total exhaustion quietens them :D add altitude and it's quicker :D add trying to race me and it's around 20 minutes :D

What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:18:24 GMT

I dont take stupid risks before a hol but i do try to carry on the exercise as normal.

Mainly for the fact that after takin it easy before the hol last yeat halfway through my first day I twisted me knee! So if its gonna happen it will get ya one way or another!

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:31:04 GMT

thanks ISE :evil: no altitude well only peak district only 2 days so nodoubt i will be one grumpy teddy by the time i get home tuesday

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:54:21 GMT

I just keep to my daily routine, works for me :shock:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:59:03 GMT

amanda n wrote:thanks ISE :evil: no altitude well only peak district only 2 days so nodoubt i will be one grumpy teddy by the time i get home tuesday

whereabouts in the Peak out of interest?

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:01:06 GMT

Edale, youth hostel

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:04:04 GMT

amanda n wrote:Edale, youth hostel

ah, I know someone who works there .... I'll get reports :D

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:09:51 GMT

now you've done it was going in scruffs gonna have to do hair n make up and wear my six inch stilettos now stalker !

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:24:17 GMT

amanda n wrote:now you've done it was going in scruffs gonna have to do hair n make up and wear my six inch stilettos now stalker !

There's no hiding :lol: :lol:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:27:01 GMT

scruffs itis dont care if i am spotted at my worst it can only get better, plus i wouldnt set a good example to lovely children caving in heels, dont think i own any

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:33:16 GMT

amanda n wrote:scruffs itis dont care if i am spotted at my worst it can only get better, plus i wouldnt set a good example to lovely children caving in heels, dont think i own any

you'd definitely look daft if you went in high heels and plastered with makeup :D seriously, when you're working teenage girls and trying to get them not cart makeup around the world the last thing you want is the link teacher to turn up like that and spend their time SMS'ing friends :D

it'll be good, my friend there is a fantastic leader and instructor, one of the best I've ever met

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:35:31 GMT

Oooh this brings back memories for me. Being with a mixed group of British Gas apprentices in the Brecons under canvas. One of the girls approaches me with a hairdryer in one hand and a plug in the other.......

:lol:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:45:35 GMT

i go to hagg farm quite often and seriously i dont take the make up haridryer straightners etc, but the girls are a nightmare they dont join in any activities where they might get mucky or wet, i love it, i did some caving just before christmas and thought it was fab

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:03:42 GMT

amanda n wrote:i go to hagg farm quite often and seriously i dont take the make up haridryer straightners etc, but the girls are a nightmare they dont join in any activities where they might get mucky or wet, i love it, i did some caving just before christmas and thought it was fab

I recognise that :D multi day stuff (my thing) the problem is toilets, to be fair it can be a bit basic but you get issues with them not drinking to avoid the toilet

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:05:00 GMT

amanda n wrote:i go to hagg farm quite often and seriously i dont take the make up haridryer straightners etc, but the girls are a nightmare they dont join in any activities where they might get mucky or wet, i love it, i did some caving just before christmas and thought it was fab

I don't like moist dark mucky crevasses :mrgreen:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:06:23 GMT

we even had some not eating so they could stay at the centre all day, and telling them to pee behing a tree, you'd think i had asked them to remove the makeup, looks of complete horror

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:08:33 GMT

amanda n wrote:we even had some not eating so they could stay at the centre all day, and telling them to pee behing a tree, you'd think i had asked them to remove the makeup, looks of complete horror

Kids today, wasn't like that when I was young :mrgreen:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:10:31 GMT

3 girls have given up ski club cause they fell over and got tracksuit bottoms dirty and no talent there ???????

should of got smirnoff there hee hee

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:11:55 GMT

amanda n wrote:3 girls have given up ski club cause they fell over and got tracksuit bottoms dirty and no talent there ???????

should of got smirnoff there hee hee

You should given them a swig of smirnoff, mes's thinks :shock:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:13:45 GMT

yes more fun standing at a bus stop drinking than learning new skills like ski-ing

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:15:38 GMT

Must be at the wrong ski club, maybe 'smirnoff' skier can chime in? :wink:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:17:06 GMT

amanda n wrote:yes more fun standing at a bus stop drinking than learning new skills like ski-ing

I guess Amanda it opens up a whole debate on how out kids are brought up these days I would have loved the opportunity that we are lucky enough to be able to give little W when I was young

Gotta go curry's here. 8)

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:18:18 GMT

have i got it wrong again? thought it was smirnoff skier who goes to sheffield ski village, never met him but thought he was a sheffield lad

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:18:58 GMT

Pablo you are scotland yes? Wickers you are goo goo land no?

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:20:47 GMT

amanda n wrote:Pablo you are scotland yes? Wickers you are goo goo land no?

Nah, Wickers is from la la land :mrgreen:

Re:What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:22:49 GMT

Pablo=Columbia

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:25:50 GMT

now i am totally confused

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:27:53 GMT

ise wrote:

amanda n wrote:i go to hagg farm quite often and seriously i dont take the make up haridryer straightners etc, but the girls are a nightmare they dont join in any activities where they might get mucky or wet, i love it, i did some caving just before christmas and thought it was fab

I recognise that :D multi day stuff (my thing) the problem is toilets, to be fair it can be a bit basic but you get issues with them not drinking to avoid the toilet

When my son was 11 he went to an activities centre with the school. They did canoeing, rock climbing, hiking etc when I picked him up after a week he was still wearing the same clothes, same socks and undies and he stunk to high heavens. His explanation.......if you think I;m undressing in front of every-one you got to be joking.......but I did have a shower I just did'nt take my pants and socks off.

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:29:32 GMT

aaaaawwwww bless

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:19:48 GMT

bandit wrote:

amanda n wrote:Pablo you are scotland yes? Wickers you are goo goo land no?

Nah, Wickers is from la la land :mrgreen:

You girls have lost the plot, I'm telling Admin :wink:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:23:17 GMT

ner ner :-o

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:28:51 GMT

amanda n wrote:ner ner :-o

I've only one thing to say and thats Pajero :mrgreen:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:53:36 GMT

amanda n wrote:Edale, youth hostel

Mmmm, that brought a flashback ~ Completed the Four Inns Fell Race twice, when I were a lad. Twas the last 50 miles of the Pennine Way.

Just the thought of it now, fair scares me. :shock:

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Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:24:22 GMT

Sounds like a good healthy trip between pubs,that one Dave,did they give you 24 hours to complete it?

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Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:07:38 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:

amanda n wrote:Edale, youth hostel

Mmmm, that brought a flashback ~ Completed the Four Inns Fell Race twice, when I were a lad. Twas the last 50 miles of the Pennine Way.
:

sorry, but it's not :lol: it's 44 miles long and shares a short section down to Edale with the Pennine way.

(completed 4 times, sub-9 hrs, 3 stints with Mountain Rescue support)

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Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:21:31 GMT

Where did you start Ise? It may be that the route differs now, since two lads died on one of my efforts. The Scout Association took fright.

I have no doubts about the 50 miles. At that time, mid-sixties, the course record was held by Roger Grimshaw of Manchester Uni team. Think he was around seven and a half hours.

In the year that the lads died, only a dozen teams finished, out of the eighty odd that started. It took us over 19 hours, all in blizzard white out conditions. All map and compass, no GIS! Most teams reckoned they had done over 60 miles, when the amount of retracing was taken into account.

The following year, I ran solo, in good weather, and managed sub-nine hours. For comparison, my three peaks time, (24~26 miles) was three and a half hours. The main difference, ie additional time-wise with the Four Inns, was the condition of Black Hill and Kinderscout. When the groughs are a foot deep in soft peat, it is a different race to when the stuff is nearly dry.

My time for flat road 50 milers was around the 7~7.5 hours, which roughly equates about right with 2hour 50 odd London marathon times.

The other aspect of the Four Inns route was that there were established check points, I don't know if that would have changed as well, ie are they the same locations?

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Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:36:44 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:Where did you start Ise? It may be that the route differs now, since two lads died on one of my efforts. The Scout Association took fright.

I know, those events led directly to the formation of the Peak District Mountain Rescue Team. But, neither the location of the Nags Head at Edale nor the Pennine Way route have altered so it doesn't trace much of the same route.

Dave Mac wrote:I have no doubts about the 50 miles. At that time, mid-sixties, the course record was held by Roger Grimshaw of Manchester Uni team. Think he was around seven and a half hours.

not quite, in 1966 on an alternate course a time of 7.5 hours was set. The record on the real course, 40 or 44 miles but not 50, was around 8hrs 30min until my days in the 80's where teams pushed it down to 8 hours and finally below. The current record stands from 1989 still and those guys were unbeatable in the 80's :D

Current times are over 9 hours for a winner apparently which is frankly disappointing, the youth today are desperately unfit :roll:

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Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:07:42 GMT

If it helps, we started from Holmfirth, and walked five and a bit miles up the Saddleworth Moor Road as far as Wessenden Head, then turned south over Black Hill.

The finish was at Buxton.

Have since completed a fair amount of fell running, nothing like the standards of Joss Naylor, Mike Reid or Ricky Wild, (who I one time partnered in a Lakeland two-day mountain marathon) I still reckon the Four Inns to be among the toughest, mostly because of the conditions, partly because I was a bit young to be involved in that kind of stuff. You need the miles under your belt.

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Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:41:02 GMT

Quick spot of historical research, extracted from Bygone Derbyshire:

"In spring, came the annual Four Inns Walk - and tragedy. As a traditional walk, originally the Three Inns, it dated back to the 1920s. In 1957, a group of Derby Rover Scouts had decided to turn the walk, of around 50 miles, into an organised team competition.

Starting at the ruined Isle of Skye Inn, near Holmfirth, in West Yorkshire, it took in both Snake Pass and Edale, where the Snake Inn and the Nag's Head provided the second and third of the four inns, before finishing at the Cat and Fiddle, high above the Goyt Valley.

By 1964, it drew teams from all over the country. As the 240 or so competitors set off that Saturday morning, the weather was wet and cool, but offered no hint of the sudden severe conditions that were to challenge walkers later in the day. Indeed, the first teams to finish experienced few difficulties but, for those that followed, conditions quickly became dangerous.

Rain turned to snow and then into a blizzard. In all, only 22 walkers were able to complete the course. As word came of the worsening conditions, and of the non-arrival of several competitors at the various checkpoints, search parties were sent out.

Four Rover Scouts from Birmingham University were reported missing. They had been caught in temperatures barely above freezing and were battered by 30mph winds hurling snow and rain at them as they crossed Snake Pass and Alport Valley.

One Scout was found near Alport and was taken to safety but, disorientated by the conditions and his experience, he was unable to tell searchers where the others might be. The Glossop Rover crew rescued another of the party; the youngest of the group, aged just 19, died later in hospital.

With conditions worsening, the search had to be called off as darkness took hold. The following morning, a full-scale rescue operation was launched. With snow several feet deep in places, this was no easy task and it was not until Monday afternoon that the first body was recovered near a waterfall on the River Alport.

The third victim's body was not discovered until Tuesday, by which time more than 350 people were involved in the search. This Scout had died on open moorland above Snake Pass, just 10 minutes' walk from safety. Although the Four Inns Walk continued, and even increased in popularity, organisers and participants were forced to review safety precautions."

It was three lads that died, not two. By 1964, the start had been pushed back down the road to Holmfirth School, and the finish to a school at Buxton.

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Mon, 2 Mar 2009 06:54:31 GMT

Holmfirth is where they film Last of the Summer Wine, the 4 Inns start is at Holmbridge church, or church hall where most of the competitors spend the night, and the finish in Harper Hill college, Buxton where competitors also spend the night.

What was remarkable in 1964 was that conditions were entirely predictable and in no way unusual for the area or time of year, it may have changed quickly on the day but that's pretty normal on those moors. The race organisers were exposed as having no emergency planning in place and allowing ill prepared young people onto the hill. This led to the formation of the Peak District mountain rescue teams, of which I was later a member, and rules being established requiring teams to carry equipment to spend a night out on the moors and making sure teams didn't become too spaced out on the hill.

It's disappointing current teams can't get around in a decent time though, unless the rules have recently changed to make them carry bricks and wear flip-flops it's a poor state of affairs they're two hours slower than we were in the '80's :lol: