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Whitedot Freeride

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:59:23 GMT

www.whitedotfreeride.com

I will be on the Preachers this season and will let you know how they pan out, will post a review asap. Good to be start of this set up from the beginning.

Due to arrive next month.. will get pics up!

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:24:56 GMT

Oooh, you've gone all fat with a 112 waist :D Still, if you get a 17m radius that will be pretty useable everywhere )

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:30:12 GMT

bandit I think it is the new "mid fat" :wink:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:02:50 GMT

how exciting! good for you :thumbup:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:25:51 GMT

Right so skis should be here this week.. or next. Before I am off to France anyways.. looks like you guys can even invest in a pair by looks of the website. I have the Preachers and will get the Redeemers in October along with another 09 pair of Preachers (179's in addition to the 189's coming this month). Happy days!

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:45:46 GMT

Had a few days on them and they are interesting. Probably mounted quiet a few cm too far forward so getting quite a bit of tip dive (they are a proto model) so will be good to receive my pair eventually and give them a run out. Thinking about changing my order for the 179's... I think a 189 mounted correctly may still be too much ski. I would still prefer a full twin and a bigger, early rise rip but can't really win em all.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:53:05 GMT

Ouch RossF i`ve just seen the price a bit steep.

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:58:45 GMT

Only really steep if you are a)paying full price/paying at all and b0 the GBP/Euro rate remains.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:04:38 GMT

Would i qualify if i was a very very mature student :mrgreen:

They look so fat you will only need one :lol:

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:12:29 GMT

I have found myself with only one on a couple of occasions this week :shock:

Note to self:higher dins required.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:41:31 GMT

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:48:24 GMT

Ross now listen to uncle Ian they are very pretty ski's but come on did you really pay that amount of money for them ????? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:51:10 GMT

What ones? I will PM you a left to right price guide...

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:25:18 GMT

Don't look very good to me, the bindings have dropped of the middle ones :lol:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:51:00 GMT

The colours look quite girly to me :D

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:02:13 GMT

Rad

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:09:40 GMT

rad 4 |rod| |rad|
adjective informal
excellent; impressive : his style is so rad | a really rad game.
ORIGIN 1980s: probably an abbreviation of radical .

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:11:00 GMT

Blate

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:18:22 GMT

RossF for a student you seem to have a lot of money to burn,Are you sure you`re not a gigolo ? :lol:

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:22:20 GMT

AJ wrote:Are you sure you`re not a gigolo ? :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...excuse me while I clean up the coffee I just laughed onto my keyboard...

But na, with colours like those I reckon Ross should get paid a pretty penny to ride free white dot free ride dot for dot free dot all. Like. Er, dude?

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:25:17 GMT

I wish I was paid :(

My ski kit is easily worth more than my car.. priorities!

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:28:57 GMT

RossF wrote:I wish I was paid :(

My ski kit is easily worth more than my car.. priorities!

OMG You're free :shock:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:30:03 GMT

Only to the lucky ones...

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:32:37 GMT

Come on then how much for your service`s ? If your shy you can pm me a list of the extra`s :mrgreen:

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:33:56 GMT

It was funny before, now I am just scared :lol:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:34:41 GMT

RossF wrote:Only to the lucky ones...

Stop this flirting at once, I'm sure there are other sites for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :wink:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:48:45 GMT

I leave for two hours to have a curry and look what I've come back to :shock:

we have seen quite a lot of your anatomy though, ross, you sure you're not trying to tell us something :?

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:30 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

RossF wrote:Only to the lucky ones...

Stop this flirting at once, I'm sure there are other sites for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :wink:

Are you jealous Mr Wickham? :lol:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:56:24 GMT

caron-a wrote:I leave for two hours to have a curry and look what I've come back to :shock:

The joy and unbridled exuberance of the natural thread drift :D

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:04:15 GMT

and then some :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:05:12 GMT

bandit wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

RossF wrote:Only to the lucky ones...

Stop this flirting at once, I'm sure there are other sites for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :wink:

Are you jealous Mr Wickham? :lol:

Bandit I'm far too old to get excited, but then again our eyes meeting on a flood lit piste, you with your punishers me whispering your name........ ROSS

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:30:43 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Bandit I'm far too old to get excited, but then again our eyes meeting on a flood lit piste, you with your punishers me whispering your name........ ROSS

Well okay but only if you promise to wear the Batman costume :mrgreen:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:48:10 GMT

RossF wrote:It was funny before, now I am just scared :lol:

No need to RossF,My brain works at a faster speed than my body these days and when the body finally realises what its supposed to be doing the brain has lost the plot :oops:

Back on topic

Its alright you getting new shiny kit but how about a proper review.Same for anyone who has the latest gear come on tell us all about it. :wink:

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:40:20 GMT

I don't know if you know, I don't actually ski.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:10:41 GMT

Andrew and the guys at White Dot invited me to try "The One" and "Preacher" during a photoshoot day back in January for the new brochures...here is my take on the "Preacher":

White Dot Freeride
The Preacher

(155-112-133) 21m radius @ 189cm
2009-2010 pre-production candidate

Preacher Front View
(click here for LARGER version)

Manufacturer Info:

White Dot Freeride
WhiteDot Freeride, 41 Cottingley Rd, Sandy Lane, West Yorkshire, BD15 9JN, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 7971 471306
http://www.whitedotfreeride.com

Background:
White Dot Freeride is one of two ski companies in the U.K. (both born last year, testing their skis this season for retail sales next year...both led by guys named Andrew...go figure..). White Dot is a small company with only a few guys who want to make only three (maybe four) models of different skis, but make them well. They designed all their own skis, specified their own construction and materials and decided to outsource construction to another country in Europe to conserve cash right now and concentrate on R&D to get the first skis the way they want them. I tried their park & pipe ski (The One) and their cambered powder ski (The Preacher). They were still tweaking the rocker and stiffness specs as of January, 2009 so I could not try their Redeemer rockered pow ski, but they said their final pre-production version should be ready by the end of February (maybe..)..I'll let you know as soon as I can get on a pair. Anyway...nice guys making some good skis at a decent price. Plus, they have dots...lots of dots...

Usage Class:

All-mountain positive camber powder ski

Your Rating (with comments): (1=get me off these things->10=I have to own a pair)

9

Summary:

A spot-on widebody ski of very nice quality that goes anywhere on the mountain with grace and confidence. Carves surprisingly solid, grippy turns on the groomers back to the lifts and handles like a dream in the soft snow. Not a super-softie or a stiffy hard-charger, but perfect for just about anyone on any surface or terrain where a wide ski is the ticket. A crowd pleaser that will probably be the bread-and-butter ski for White Dot Freeride since nearly everyone will like it for nearly any freeriding. Nice.

Technical Ski Data:

- SEMI TWIN -
BASE: ISO highspeed, Graphite infused die cut
DIMS: 155/112/133
LENGTHS: 169,179,189
RADIUS: 17, 19, 21
EFFECTIVE EDGE: 149, 158, 166
TIP/TAIL LENGTHS: 195,120
EDGE ANGLE: 1=3
CORE: Okume, Poplar Laminate
SIDEWALL: ABS
EDGES: 2mm steel, 360 degree
CAMBER: 5mm
TOPSHEET: Screen Printed Nylon
CONSTRUCTION: Graphite infused ISO Highspeed
base/2mm edge/Okume poplar core/Carbon Fibre,
Kevlar Weave/Nylon Topsheet
Price = Euro555

Pre-Skiing Impression:

The white dots on green background grew on me after a minute. Even better against a snowy white background. Very nicely constructed and finished powder ski with balanced flex, good torsional rigidity where it counts, and nicely dampened. I got the impression this ski would be good for nearly any terrain we could find. Excellent quality of fit-and-finish. Really attractive price of Euro555.

Test Conditions:

Cold, dry, powder snow 1 day old, boot-deep powder, tracked-out boot-deep powder and packed groomers. Les Grand Montets - Chamonix, France. January 2009.

Test Results:

I tested these skis after getting off the Icelantic Shaman and Icelantic Nomad earlier in the day in the same terrain, with the Shaman being closest in width to the Preacher, so I will mention the differences a bit as I go along. The Preacher was instantly skiable without any learning curve. This pair, being a final pre-production model (serial 000-000-001-09 or something like that), was mounted a teeny bit forward of the final recommended mark according to Andrew Phyn of White Dot, but it really didn't feel funky at all to me. I could get right on this ski and point it at cut up crud, fluffy untouched powder, groomers and crossovers and bumps without any hesitation.

Slow turns were easy, faster turns were stable and predictable, and traversing across surface types was a breeze. The Preacher loved powder and was silky and responsive as you would ever want. You could adjust your depth in the soft stuff at will, and adjust turn radii with no effort at all, point them where you want them to go...they go. Quick turns and carving grip on the hardpack was impressive for a ski with 150mm tip and 112mm underfoot. I found the White Dot Preacher much more grippy and carvable on the hardpack than the Icelantic Shaman (which people generally think is great on the groomers for a widebody). Maybe that's because the Preacher was brand-new and the pair of Shamans had some miles on them, but the responsive control on hard surfaces was distinctively more impressive with the Preacher. Big grins from me on this category.

Andrew said their graphite-infused base is ultra durable, and after catching some Chamonix rock outcrops lurking just under the powder surface a few times on my runs (sorry Andrew...I tried to be careful), my inspection of the skis showed they held up great. No deep tears as I might have expected, just shallow dents, which means the edges might live a little longer and avoid getting pulled out as often as they do on softer-base skis. While the Icelantic Shaman wanted to be skied all up front and showed a tendency to hook you quickly into directional changes (an excellent behavior in tight trees if you want that kind of turn...lots of people like the Shaman for tight trees because of this behavior), the Preacher was rounder, smoother, and somewhat stronger feeling because you feel the whole length of the ski working its turn rather than just the forebody. Compared to the Icelantic Nomad, the Preacher is stronger, more stable and more speed-freindly, while the Nomad is more playful in short-turn situations and bumpy terrain. I really liked the way the Preacher smoothly navigated the terrain and never had a mind of its own. Sometimes the Shaman wants to grab the terrain and turn for you, while the Preacher cruises on command and never deviates from what you tell it to do. No surprises, only great manners.

Since it's not a stiff, cliff-hucking, mach-schnell, hard-charging ski, you can get get the Preacher to flap a little through the cut up crud if you get ripping at hyperspeeds, but it's not meant for hard-charging (White Dot is considering making a limited edition hard-charger version if people really want one). The Preacher is the big-mountain, all terrain ride for all day long. Nice, and right-on-target for the market segment they aimed for. They have a winner. And the price is right.

Analogies: (this ski is like...)

A good bottle of young red Burgundy. Graceful enough to go with just about anything you want to do in soft snow anywhere on the mountain, robust enough to carve confidently on harder terrain when necessary, pleasing, fun and versatile with a definite sophistication and subtle undercurrent of quality. Not a bruising, muscular, big-mountain freight train requiring concentration, stamina and obliteration of all senses of precision, but something you'd reach for over and over every day on snow because it just goes with everything so well. The more you enjoy it, the less you'll want something else. (sorry, I've been living in Bourgogne, France for a while, and I'm starting to think of EVERYTHING in terms of wines now...)

Photos:

I was lucky enough to get invited to try the White Dot Freeride skis during their photoshoot at Chamonix for next year's catalog and brochures. Their pro athlete Justin Hawxhurst was SpeedFlying (paraskiing) and I got to capture a little handicam video of him flying. Fun stuff. Andrew sent me some low-res pictures from his photoshoot you can see below (stamped with names).

YouTube Video:
(click the view in high quality link if it does not display in high-quality at first)

The Preacher at rest.
(Click here for LARGER version)

Preachers on edge
(click here for LARGER version)

Preacher Side View
(click here for LARGER version)

Preacher Tails
(click here for LARGER version)

Preacher Tips
(click here for LARGER version)

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:11:57 GMT

Sweet, thanks. Thought about copying it in but didn't get round to it :lol:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:09:51 GMT

Thanks for the low down and welcome to j2ski.

AJ Adele

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:59:37 GMT

I'd love a pair of them, I wonder if they would like them tested by an old fat bloke :?: :?: :?:
If so please please pm me :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:01:34 GMT

stunning photos :thumbup:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:44:13 GMT

Here is my quick review with some pics of the park & pipe twintip from the White Dot guys...

White Dot Freeride
"The One" Twintip

(124-89-119) 19m radius @ 180cm
2009-2010 production candidate

(click here for LARGER version)

Manufacturer Info:

White Dot Freeride
41 Cottingley Rd, Sandy Lane, West Yorkshire, BD15 9JN, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 7971 471306
http://www.whitedotfreeride.com

Background:

White Dot Freeride is one of two ski companies in the U.K. (both born last year, testing their skis this season for retail sales next year...both led by guys named Andrew...go figure..). White Dot is a small company with only a few guys who want to make only three (maybe four) models of different skis, but make them well. They designed all their own skis, specified their own construction and materials and decided to outsource construction to another country in Europe to conserve cash right now and concentrate on R&D to get the first skis the way they want them. I tried their park & pipe ski ("The One") and their cambered powder ski ("The Preacher"). They were still tweaking the rocker and stiffness specs as of January, 2009 so I could not try their "Redeemer" rockered pow ski, but they said their final pre-production version should be ready by the end of February (maybe..)..I'll let you know as soon as I can get on a pair. Anyway...nice guys making some good skis at a decent price. Plus, they have dots...lots of dots...

Usage Class:

Park & Pipe / All Mountain Twintip

Your Rating (with comments): (1="get me off these things"->10="I have to own a pair")

8

Summary:

A solid, excellent quality P&P twintip ski with plenty of zing, very good edge grip and manouverability. Not as burly as, let's say a Lib-Tech NAS P&P, but more accurate with more precision feel. Not as soft as a Palmer P01, but stronger. Very versatile. Great color. This one will sell a ton once people try it. Mount it slightly rear of center "freestyle" for an all-mountain frontside ski capable of any rowdy tricks you might want, or mount it on the center pivot point for terrain and park navigation. Not for heavyweights, muscleheads, high-speed or whimpy skiers...hits the majority of users for this category right on, I think.

Technical Ski Data:

- TRUE TWIN -
BASE: ISO highspeed, Graphite infused die cut
DIMS: 124/89/119
LENGTHS: 166,173,180
RADIUS: 16, 18, 19
EFFECTIVE EDGE: 146, 152, 158
TIP/TAIL LENGTHS: 175,175
EDGE ANGLE: 1=3
CORE: Okume, Poplar Laminate
SIDEWALL: ABS EDGES: 2mm steel, 360 degree
CAMBER: 12mm
TOPSHEET: Screen Printed Nylon
CONSTRUCTION: Graphite infused ISO Highspeed
base/2mm edge/Okume poplar core/Carbon Fibre,
Kevlar Weave/Nylon Topsheet
Price: Euro460

Pre-Skiing Impression:

Excellent resurrection of orange topsheet color. Excellent quality of fit-and-finish. Snappy rebound, decent dampening, torsionally strong with smooth flex, no "hot spots", but decently strong body. Really attractive price of Euro460.

Test Conditions:

Cold, dry, powder snow 1 day old, boot-deep powder, tracked-out boot-deep powder and nicely packed groomers with small bumps on the sides if you look for them. Les Grand Montets - Chamonix, France. January 2009.

Test Results:

I skied these after riding powder boards all morning and found them to have very quick response at the helm without being squirrely. Very quick edge to edge, grippy anywhere along their length, capable of quick cuts, sustained edging, pops, changes of direction and bumps just right. Mounted on freestyle-center, they got "interesting" and "self-directional" at GS-like speeds if ridden too flat for too long (not a good idea on centermount P&P skis anyway...but I had to try it to see when they would get wandery). I could dash in and out of cut up powder on the edges of the groomers, in and out of the bumps (they want to give you instant feedback in the bumps...not a bad thing...just be alert...they are lively..just the way you want them to be), make direction changes on-demand in the blink of an eye, and if you load them up, they spring with plenty of control and land quietly and stay where you plant them. Comparing these to the Lib-Tech NAS P&P we tested before, this ski is more precise, and not as burly or demanding. It you are muscular and need a heavy-timber weapon, you might overski the "The One". If you are looking for a softie twintip, "The One" will probably make you pay attention too much because it wants to cut, carve and pop...not lounge-around. If you're not at the extreme "muscle-head" nor "floppy-ski" end of the spectrum, "The One" will probably do a great job for you. Demo a pair and make your own decision. The build quality appears to be above-average, and the materials look very solid, so I think they will hold up well. I think park & pipe freaks will find them really fun (I am NOT a terrain park guy...have someone else review their aerial prowess...) and responsive, and definitely eye-catching in orange with white dots. I also think this would be a great teen-twenty-something all-mountain frontside ski if mounted just behind the freestyle centerpoint to give it some stability at higher speeds. "The One" will suit lots of skiers looking for a responsive, well-built twintip freestyle ski that can cut up the hill nicely. And, you can give your cash to a small ski company instead of one with huge corporate overhead and attitude. "The One" is priced for the people - and that's a nice thing to see.

Analogies: (this ski is like...)

A Cooper Mini "Turbo S Clubman". Quick, nimble, sporty and hip, but still ample enough to do some errands around town when you want some time off from driving intensely. Enthusiast drivers can get it to do some great gymnastics with ease, while more casual sport drivers can take it all over the place and still keep a wide grin. Cool and very responsive.

Self-Description of Skiing Style, Ability, Experience, Preferences:

Expert groomed-surface carver, "old-style" race inspired, "foot steerer" with fairly sensitive edging feel who loves the feel of powder floating and banking. Loves to hold long arcs with lots of pressure on the downhill ski (you know the type), but also loves the feel of both skis on-edge leaving tiny railroad track edge tracks. Not an instructor, but 10 year coach for youth race team in New England (bulletproof is the norm).

Photos:

"The One"
(click here for a LARGER version)

"The One" tips
(click here for a LARGER version)

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:54:23 GMT

Cool man :thumbup:

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:29:00 GMT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7893328.stm

Glenshee on Friday.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:00:52 GMT

All they gotta do now is drop the price 8)

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:04:24 GMT

:lol:

The reporter really can't ski.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:49:07 GMT

And I though new kit was easier to ski on. That poor guy, is he the only BBC Scotland Reporter that can (sort of) ski.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:51:14 GMT

That's what I thought, I can imagine the researcher walking in to the office and going 'RIGHT HANDS UP WHO CAN SKI', and the solitary hand in the corner being raised.

Re:Whitedot Freeride

Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:18:26 GMT

That was a funny day at Glenshee.

Thanks for all your comments. Re the price, we buy all off the materials in euros so it was better for us to price in euros. The crappy thing is when we started testing skis and making moulds for WDF the exchange rate was 1.40 so the prices would have been much better.
Over the summer we are going to be comming up with a discount scheme for UK riders to combat the exchange rate.