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<description> I have been looking for a ski boot bag for ages now that complies with airline regulations for hand luggage, ie 56x45x25cm. A pair of boots sat next to each other in a bag is too large, which is 99.9% of boot bags. Does anyone know of a bag that complies. Boots on top of each other in the bag will do it. Straps that can be used as a rucksack would be great. Frustratingly most online shops don't offer the bags dimensions. I have found one bag that possibly complies. There is a gap in the market. :?:  </description>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Adam67 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;I have been looking for a ski boot bag for ages now that complies with airline regulations for hand luggage, ie 56x45x25cm. A pair of boots sat next to each other in a bag is too large, which is 99.9% of boot bags. Does anyone know of a bag that complies. Boots on top of each other in the bag will do it. Straps that can be used as a rucksack would be great. Frustratingly most online shops don't offer the bags dimensions. I have found one bag that possibly complies. There is a gap in the market. :?:  &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your suitcase that you check in and use your hand luggage allowance for other things like gloves, goggles, etc. you can't pack ski boots any better or safer than that.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> This is something troubling me a little. We have conventional boot bags (salomon). We flew for the 1st time when skiing last April. I did measure the boot bags and they do slightly exceed the hand luggage measurements. However, we flew with KLM (Humberside - Amsterdam - Oslo) and they were completely relaxed both ways. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; We are flying with Easyjet at New Year (Liverpool - Geneva) and imagine that they will be much more strict. We could pack our boots into our hold luggage but I'd be seriously cheesed off if they were lost, hence desire to carry on as hand luggage. I'm actually tempted to split the boots between boot bags and rucksacks (our children will be carrying a rucksack each but will be hiring boots). Therefore one boot per bag! Sounds a bit mad but I'm sure it would work.&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:23:42 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; I thought some airlines had stopped allowing boots in hand luggage.&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:33:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Tony_H, thanks but my boots outweigh my socks etc and are slightly larger. I have got by in the past from a GBP7.99 rucksack from JJB sports, but its about to collapse. There must be a back pack out there that will comply?</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:33:42 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Brooksy, they might not be keen on the idea for whatever reason, but they don't weigh more than the allowance and if packed correctly are not larger than the allowance. There is nothing stipulated in their terms and conditions that you cant carry boots in your hand luggage either. If they're in a back pack they don't even know and the guy at x ray is looking for something a little more threatening. I have found a Lange bag, but its not in backpack format.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:38:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I have a wheeled trolley mini-suitcase for my boots, which I bought from Profeet. I very carefully measured it to make sure it complied with the regulations, and discovered that the wheels stick out about 2cm more than is allowed.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The boots fit in it top to tail, as it were.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; However, I have flown with EasyJet using this as hand luggage about 4 times (i.e. 8 flights) and I haven't been told off yet, or asked to put it in that basket measuring thing.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I suppose if I did get into trouble with it I'd have to use something like a large supermarket bag and put some stuff from my suitcase in that to make room for my boots, and collapse the boot bag and put it into my suitcase.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I find the wheels very handy when wheeling my boots around on the London underground. It's amazing how much they weigh!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; And, long term, if it started to become a problem I would have to buy a small wheeled suitcase the correct size, put some of my stuff in that, and fit my boots into my suitcase (like Tony H said).</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:39:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> &lt;br /&gt; With regard to boots in hand luggage I was saying what was stated by the the flight T&amp;Cs &amp; not what you can get away with, has anyone else heard of the restriction?&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:45:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Thanks AllyG. I'll have a look into that. Quite like not having to carry my boots around Duty Free. I think airline staff look out for boot bags and don't allow them, knowing that they don't comply. Top and tailing boots in other types of bags however seems to either not catch their eye or is acceptable.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:55:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> &lt;br /&gt; Just looked at EJ &amp; they say that skis &amp; ski boots are not in the allowance but can be taken for an additional fee, are there others?</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:55:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> my understanding is that you cant take boots as carry on unless you purchase the 'sports equipment' carry on ticket for easy jet, i assume other cheap and nasty carriers are the same.  </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:58:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Yep you're right, just checked. Ski Boots are classed as sports equipment and EJ state, 'If ski boots are being carried without skis they can be accepted either within Your normal standard Hold Baggage allowance or as a sporting equipment item whichever is the more convenient option'. The more convenient option EJ is to let me put them in my hand luggage!!!! So despite them fitting in your hand baggage, they're not aloud. Golf shoes are ok though I note!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:10:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> We have had a problem carrying boots as hand luggage. They let us check in with them but when we got to the gate they took all boot bags off anyone trying to take them on as hand luggage and insisted they went in the hold. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; When I questioned this I was told they were classed as offensive weapons and not allowed in the cabin. I know my feet can pong a bit after a day's skiing but I thought this was a bit extreme  :shock:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I have never known of anyone clubbing a fellow passenger to death with a ski boot either but I guess it just goes to show that they make the rules up as they go along. I suppose if you can find a bag that doesn't look like a boot bag, you stand a better chance of getting them on as hand luggage but you take the risk.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; We are driving to Tignes in January, no problem with my offensive boots on that journey  :lol:</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:50:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Felthorpe, I take it you weren't charged for putting them in the hold?</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:56:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I must say I hadn't realized I actually wasn't allowed to carry my ski boots as hand luggage. I thought the only problem I had was the wheels sticking out a tiny bit.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; It's very strange because when they scan my boots they can obviously see they're ski boots. Maybe the airport security people don't mind ski boots but EasyJet do.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; And perhaps the reason I haven't been told off at check in is because it doesn't look like a boot bag - it looks exactly like everyone else's mini- trolley suitcase.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Luckily I'm going to Tignes on the train, so that won't be a problem, but I am flying back. However, if my boots are confiscated on the way back I will have several months, at least, before I need them again which will hopefully give me time to recover them.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Felthorpe, did they charge you extra to put your ski boots in the hold?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Oh, and the most recent time I flew with EasyJet like this was at the end of April (2012), from Gatwick to Geneva and back again.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:59:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> It certainly backs up the theory that if it doesn't look like a boot bag then no one will know. Its not like they search everyones bags for ski boots, otherwise known as highly offensive weapons!</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:10:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Well, after reading through the discussion so far, I think I will put out boots in our main hold bags this time. I could do without the hassle at check in.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I dread to think how I would feel if they lost our bags though. My feet do not like hire boots at all.....</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:10:42 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> To answer your questions:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; No we weren't charged extra to put them in the hold. They would have had a riot on their hands if they had tried because the check in staff had happily let us through with them and there were laods of people in the same position as us. It was just the staff at the gate that were being difficult.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I have managed to take them on board as hand luggage on some flights but it is not guaranteed. It seems to depend on the staff on the day.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The security staff are completely separate from the airline staff and they operate different rules. They can probably tell the difference between a ski boot and an offensive weapon!</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:25:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion amongst airline staff over ski boots. How is a ski boot an offensive weapon, and a litre of Whisky purchased airside not classified the same? Who made the classification?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I have read of Ski Tourers wearing their boots onto planes, there is not much difference between a ski touring boot and a winter mountaineering boot. Where will they draw their imaginary line? &lt;br /&gt; I was refused a pair of Moonboots in my hand baggage at check in at Bristol airport, proper soft squidgy Moonboots. I was much younger  :oops:  I was obliged to sit on the floor and repack my main case, and subsequently got wet feet on arrival as I had no access to my winter boots, hey-ho.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Of course, there is money to be made from getting skiers to pay for hold luggage, however it's classified.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I have taken my ski boots as hand luggage in a backpack many times. The cost of my boots far outweighs the rest of my luggage, though mostly I travel with hand luggage only.&lt;br /&gt; I do not wish to have a member of staff working for an airline, dictating what I can/can't put into my personal hand luggage, it's bordering on abusive. My carry-on bag meets current restrictions (depending on the airline). That should be enough.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:57:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> It may be easier if I repeat:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your case. You're usually allowed 20 kilos and with boots in your case, you can't seriously have more than 20 kilos in your bag?&lt;br /&gt; If so, repack reminding yourself you're going skiing and not to fashion week in Milan.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Don't run the risk of problems at the airport, and the potential stress of worrying whether you'll be allowed them as hand luggage. Pack them in your hold case or check the boot bag in as my mate does - something I'd never do having seen them thrown about and coming off in pieces.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:21:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I find myself agreeing with Tony!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Why give the gate jobsworths an opportunity to satisfy their lust for misery.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Remember, rules and regulations are there to make the unimportant feel important!!  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Put the boots in the hold luggage. :!:  </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:02:50 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Tony_H wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;It may be easier if I repeat:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your case. You're usually allowed 20 kilos and with boots in your case, you can't seriously have more than 20 kilos in your bag?&lt;br /&gt; If so, repack reminding yourself you're going skiing and not to fashion week in Milan.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Don't run the risk of problems at the airport, and the potential stress of worrying whether you'll be allowed them as hand luggage. Pack them in your hold case or check the boot bag in as my mate does - something I'd never do having seen them thrown about and coming off in pieces.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; That is why I put my post on to alert people that there are rules in place which may or may not be applied &amp; you're now aware of the problems you may have if ducking &amp; diving.As Tony says put them in your case for hold luggage as I do 8) also be aware that if you have 1 bag for the hold &amp; you put a boot bag or any other in the hold as well you will be charged as your allowance is for one bag only, you cannot split your allowance, buying into an extra bag is the same price as the original but without additional weight.Proberbly best to have the sports equipment package. </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:09:38 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I have had a go reading some of EasyJet's small print now, and Brooksy is quite right, it does say ski boots count as sports equipment and they should either go in the hold as part of your normal weight allowance or you should pay extra for them as sports equipment and then put them in the hold (with an extra weight allowance, which is 32Kg including your usual suitcase allowance).&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;i&gt;Sports equipment&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sporting equipment can be carried in addition to Your Hold Baggage allowance. Sporting equipment is defined as:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     Bicycles&lt;br /&gt;     Golf equipment (excluding golf shoes)&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;b&gt;Skis (including boots&lt;/b&gt; and poles)&lt;br /&gt;     Snowboards&lt;br /&gt;     Surfboards&lt;br /&gt;     Wind surfers&lt;br /&gt;     Hang-gliders/paragliders&lt;br /&gt;     Sporting Firearms&lt;br /&gt;     Diving Equipment (Gas or air cylinders are not permitted)&lt;br /&gt;     Sporting Wheelchairs (unless this is one of the two items of mobility equipment per passenger)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If You wish to carry any of the above items You will be charged an additional non-refundable fee for each item carried. Simply select the 'Sports equipment' option when You book Your flights online. If Your item is not listed it must be carried as part of Your standard Hold Baggage allowance.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If ski boots are being carried without skis they can be accepted either within Your normal standard Hold Baggage allowance or as a sporting equipment item whichever is the more convenient option.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; It doesn't actually say that ski boots are banned in your hand luggage, although I suppose it is implied.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; However, under the fees section it also says that if you declare you have sports gear at the airport you will have to pay GBP35 at the airport, against GBP27 if you pre-booked it. So there isn't really a big difference:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;i&gt;You pay for	Baggage allowance&lt;br /&gt; 0 bags, 1 sporting item	&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     total allowance 1 item @32kg total&lt;br /&gt;     this item must be a genuine sporting good as defined&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 1 bag, 1 sporting item	&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     total allowance 2 items @ 32kg total&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;i&gt;1 item must be a genuine sporting good as defined&lt;br /&gt;     You may distribute weight between items as desired&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 1bag, 2 sporting items	&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     total allowance 3 items @ 44kg total&lt;br /&gt;     2 items must be a genuine sporting good as defined&lt;br /&gt;     You may distribute weight between items as desired&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sports equipment per flight&lt;br /&gt; Currency	Per flight (when pre-paid)	Per flight (paid at the airport)&lt;br /&gt; GBP	27.00	35.00&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easyjet.com/en/fees_and_charges.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.easyjet.com/en/fees_and_charges.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<description> Always pack mine in my suitcase, don't need the hassle at the airport and in addition, soft boot bag coupled with baggage handlers that could throw the discus for Team GB = chance of knackered boots.  Not worth it at all...</description>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Adam67 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;I have been looking for a ski boot bag for ages now that complies with airline regulations for hand luggage, ie 56x45x25cm. A pair of boots sat next to each other in a bag is too large, which is 99.9% of boot bags. Does anyone know of a bag that complies. Boots on top of each other in the bag will do it. Straps that can be used as a rucksack would be great. Frustratingly most online shops don't offer the bags dimensions. I have found one bag that possibly complies. There is a gap in the market. :?:  &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your suitcase that you check in and use your hand luggage allowance for other things like gloves, goggles, etc. you can't pack ski boots any better or safer than that.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Agreed.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I always put my boots in the hold, jeez they are so heavy i wouldn't want tyem in my ruck sack.&lt;br /&gt; They have been in my suitcase and more recently i pack them in my ski bag with my skis and poles.</description>
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<description> Pack then in Ya ski bag  8) </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:15:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Boots in rucsac. Total rucsac weight last year, under 13kgs.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:30:49 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Tony_H wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;It may be easier if I repeat:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your case. You're usually allowed 20 kilos and with boots in your case, you can't seriously have more than 20 kilos in your bag?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Don't run the risk of problems at the airport, and the potential stress of worrying whether you'll be allowed them as hand luggage. Pack them in your hold case or check the boot bag in as my mate does - something I'd never do having seen them thrown about and coming off in pieces.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Your luggage went missing for several days on one ski trip you made, did that include your Boots?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I bet that was no fun at all.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:36:55 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> You should buy something like this which has a split level design - boots in the bottom section and clothes in the top. It's a roller so you won't feel the weight as much as a rucksack!  :D&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:32:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I have always put my boots in the hold baggage. Having heard too many stories of people being refused them either at airport security or at the gate, I don't want to risk taking them as hand luggage.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Most airlines let you have either 1 or 2 hold bags per person, as long as combined they don't exceed the weight limit (usually 20kg). I always use my soft boot bag, but completely stuff the boots and surrounding the boots with socks, boxers, thermals, hats etc to protect them from the inevitable rough treatment from the baggage handlers.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; That means I can then take a smaller bag as my second bag, since quite a bit of volume has been transferred into the boot bag in the shape of underwear!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Mostly I have flown on charter-type flights, e.g. Monarch, Thomson etc. The budget guys (Easyjet etc) I think charge per-bag, rather than a weight allowance to do with as you see fit, so of course YMMV.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:21:52 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Tony_H wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;It may be easier if I repeat:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Pack them in your case. You're usually allowed 20 kilos and with boots in your case, you can't seriously have more than 20 kilos in your bag?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Don't run the risk of problems at the airport, and the potential stress of worrying whether you'll be allowed them as hand luggage. Pack them in your hold case or check the boot bag in as my mate does - something I'd never do having seen them thrown about and coming off in pieces.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Your luggage went missing for several days on one ski trip you made, did that include your Boots?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I bet that was no fun at all.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;One in a million. And you rent some until yours turn up which is covered on insurance. The airline were totally responsible for not loading the bags in this scenario which is massively unlikely to ever happen again. </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:49:18 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;blackpool-skier wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;You should buy something like this which has a split level design - boots in the bottom section and clothes in the top. It's a roller so you won't feel the weight as much as a rucksack!  :D&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;These bags are superb. Still counts as checked in baggage though so same as what most of us have been saying.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:50:28 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Dave Mac wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;Boots in rucsac. Total rucsac weight last year, under 13kgs.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Are you saying you carried this on as hand luggage? 13kg is a BIT heavy for a carry on.....&lt;br /&gt; If not you're agreeing in a roundabout way with most of us to pack them in your checked in baggage allowance.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:51:15 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Tony_H wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;These bags are superb. &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The power of w-o-m marketing: I've just ordered two: one blue one pink. Thanks for the recommendation !</description>
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<description> I should email the company and ask for some commission!! &lt;br /&gt; Those bags are the way forward though...&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Enjoy!!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:10:59 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;blackpool-skier wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;I should email the company and ask for some commission!! &lt;br /&gt; Those bags are the way forward though...&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Enjoy!!&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I think that would be a very good idea - I've just bought one as well    :lol: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; My old suitcase is nearly falling to bits - it's been round the world several times with various members of the family and it's pretty much on its last legs, and it was an ultra cheap one in the first place - from Woolworths I think.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:17:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Woolworths ! That takes us back!  You'll be telling us you bought your boots with Green Shield stamps next, Ally :)</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:33:03 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> If everyone buys those bags, how are we going to tell them apart at the airport?</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:30:55 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;felthorpe wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;If everyone buys those bags, how are we going to tell them apart at the airport?&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Put a label on them. :roll: </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:38:42 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;felthorpe wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;If everyone buys those bags, how are we going to tell them apart at the airport?&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Do you know, that's exactly what I was thinking! I'm going to tie a multi-coloured sock around the handle, like I usually do (my Woolworths suitcase is an undistinguishable black colour)    :lol: </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:40:27 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Dave Mac wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;Boots in rucsac. Total rucsac weight last year, under 13kgs.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Are you saying you carried this on as hand luggage? 13kg is a BIT heavy for a carry on.....&lt;br /&gt; If not you're agreeing in a roundabout way with most of us to pack them in your checked in baggage allowance.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Nope, that was my checked in baggage. Just had my laptop,camera, book in the hand baggage.&lt;br /&gt; Having said that, unless they have changed, EJ do NOT have a max weight limit on hand baggage.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:56:07 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Dave Mac wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;... unless they have changed, EJ do NOT have a max weight limit on hand baggage...&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Indeed they do not; you just have to be able to lift it into the overhead rack unaided. EJ have in the past allowed me to carry skiboots as hand luggage, but Thomson have refused, and made me put them in the hold, but did not charge extra for this.</description>
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<description> So if you own a double ski bag you could put 1 pair of skis and your boots in it + 1 hold bag with a combined weight of 32Kg. Thats it in a nutshell. Otherwise its boots in your hold bag with a crusty change of clothes!!! If anyone is interested in the boot bag rucksack option this one meets the hand baggage size allowance - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ldmountaincentre.com/ski-c26/luggage-c46/ski-bags-c183/go-to-ski-gear-bag-p3438.&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ldmountaincentre.com/ski-c26/luggage-c46/ski-bags-c183/go-to-ski-gear-bag-p3438.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Its a bit pricey but will do the job. &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<description> Many airlines stipulate that there must be no luggage other than the sports item. &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<description> ski boots are classed as sports equipment, there lies the problem. I'm with you though on the ski boots in hand luggage, there's no way they're fitting in my hold bag along with my vast wardrobe of fashionable clothing.</description>
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<description> Here we go again.....&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Right. Some airlines allow you to carry sports equipment free as long as it doesn't exceed the max baggage allowance. For example, British airways, Lufthansa and Swiss.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Others charge extra for sports baggage on top of the regular 15, 20 or 23kg, subject to a max limit on weight. For example Thomson who now set a 15kg limit on ski bags in addition to the 15/20kg checked baggage limit.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Easy jet and Ryanair are a different kettle of fish and seemingly will only let you take a single pair of skis as sports equipment and i do know stories of bags being opened and items being refused.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; You really need to check with each individual airline. However as many of travel on chartered flights for ski trips, the simple rule is ski bags are extra and you can pretty much put what you want inside them provided it does not exceed the stated weight limit ie 15kg which is in addition to the checked baggage allowance. In addition you are allowed carry on luggage subject often to a 5 or 10kg limit. Ski carriage on charter flights is normally GBP35 or so. Therefore for GBP35 extra you can take a total of 35kg checked in plus hand luggage.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Please someone tell me that's not enough for a weeks skiing ........?????</description>
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<description> I'm with Tony H on this. I have a large ski holdall from Snow + Rock which has separate compartments for boots, so no room for other kit is lost.  In the hold they go and no worries over hand luggage etc. Last year, this large bag including boots plus skis was well inside the EasyJet allowance of 32kg.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If it were to be delayed or go missing in transit, I'm up the shute anyway and hiring or buying some new boots would go alongside begging, stealing or borrowing a complete set of kit.</description>
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				&lt;cite&gt;LOTA wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;I'm with Tony H on this. I have a large ski holdall from Snow + Rock which has separate compartments for boots, so no room for other kit is lost.  In the hold they go and no worries over hand luggage etc. Last year, this large bag including boots plus skis was well inside the EasyJet allowance of 32kg.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If it were to be delayed or go missing in transit, I'm up the shute anyway and hiring or buying some new boots would go alongside begging, stealing or borrowing a complete set of kit.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;there you go, confirmation that easyet have a weight limit of 20kg checked in baggage plus 12kg ski bag or 32kg combined as LOTA states.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Your 2nd comment is right on the mark. Its pointless suggesting you're making a mistake packing your boots as your bag may go missing. Whilst mine did, it wasn't just boots, it was literally everything. I was actually more upset about not having clean underpants </description>
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<description> Thank you, Tony. Decent travel insurance permits you to buy or hire the necessities to enjoy your holiday and survive until the bag turns up.</description>
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<description> As we are in danger of Tony_H having heart failure over this subject I'll let it rest, no wiser on the trials and tribulations of flying EasyJet - if only they were that Easy. I 'll probably run the risk with my GBP7.99 JJB sports rucksack with a bit of duck tape wrapped around. Looking forward to 2013 already when we can raise this subject once more - bon ski !</description>
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<description> Crikey, I hadn't realised something so simple could get so complicated.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I bought my bag in &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;&quot;&gt;1983&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, it's still going strong, never had a spot of bother with it on any flight.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The '80's luminous pink writing matched my luminous yellow &amp; pink socks of the era (remember those?) ahhhh... The bag's outlasted the socks by a good 28 years! </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:13:51 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Adam67 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;As we are in danger of Tony_H having heart failure over this subject I'll let it rest, no wiser on the trials and tribulations of flying EasyJet - if only they were that Easy. I 'll probably run the risk with my GBP7.99 JJB sports rucksack with a bit of duck tape wrapped around. Looking forward to 2013 already when we can raise this subject once more - bon ski !&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;pardon?&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:40:50 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> at bhx earlier this year flying with thompson and a lad was overweight for his checked luggage. he took out his ski boots - bag now underweight so checked in ok and he walked through the security checks carrying a ski boot in each hand and still got on the plane with them in his hands!!&lt;br /&gt; Rules or no rules? &lt;br /&gt; i always put my boots in my checked bag and cram a lot into my rucksack i use for hand luggage. and if my case goes missing all my ski clothing is with the boots any way. </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I bought a ski bag with a compartment for boots about a decade ago, I'd never go back to a separate boot bag.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:24:10 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;blackpool-skier wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;You should buy something like this which has a split level design - boots in the bottom section and clothes in the top. It's a roller so you won't feel the weight as much as a rucksack!  :D&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Bought one of these bags, really like it, it says it has a secret detachable valuables bag. Its that secret I can't find it!:-P &lt;br /&gt; Does anyone know where it is located</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:05:46 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;blackpool-skier wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;You should buy something like this which has a split level design - boots in the bottom section and clothes in the top. It's a roller so you won't feel the weight as much as a rucksack!  :D&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.snowbiz.co.uk/luggage-c46/travel-bag-c51/surfanic-surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-p409?utm_source=froogle&amp;utm_medium=ppc&amp;utm_term=surfanic-97-litre-roller-bag-sky-camo-blue-suw10585053-517&amp;utm_campaign=froogle#960&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Bought one of these bags, really like it, it says it has a secret detachable valuables bag. Its that secret I can't find it!:-P &lt;br /&gt; Does anyone know where it is located&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Its behind the lining  :twisted: </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:18:57 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;john987 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Bought one of these bags, really like it, it says it has a secret detachable valuables bag. Its that secret I can't find it!:-P &lt;br /&gt; Does anyone know where it is located&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Its behind the lining  :twisted: &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; John - I bought one as well, and I can't find a secret detachable valuables bag either (although it does say there is one, on the label). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Maybe someone has detached it and stolen it?    :lol: </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:31:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> I have one of these too, really like it. Still have to locate the secret valuables bag!! Good size bag and often on offer. </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:53:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Cantbe bothered reading all 8 pages. In the danger it has been said already....&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I fly  with EJ most of the time who have no limit on weight as long as you can lift it yourself.  I always put my boots in a salomon boot bag and have NEVER had a problem.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If they do have a problem, simply wear them :lol:</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:35:17 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Iceman wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;Cantbe bothered reading all 8 pages. In the danger it has been said already....&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I fly  with EJ most of the time who have no limit on weight as long as you can lift it yourself.  I always put my boots in a salomon boot bag and have NEVER had a problem.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If they do have a problem, simply wear them :lol:&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Perhaps you should have read the posts, forewarned &amp; all that  :shock: </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:22:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> could you do me a summary, avoiding the 7 pages of off topic drivvle ;)</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:23:33 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Iceman wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;could you do me a summary, avoiding the 7 pages of off topic drivvle ;)&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Yeah, you`re not allowed to take ski boots as hand luggage with EJ.&lt;br /&gt;  </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:54:47 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Iceman wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;could you do me a summary, avoiding the 7 pages of off topic drivvle ;)&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Yeah, you`re not allowed to take ski boots as hand luggage with EJ.&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; If you're caught with ski boots in your hand luggage by EasyJet staff you have to spend all week cleaning toilets and you're not allowed to ski/board until next year    :cry:     :wink: </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:03:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Never had a prob. Don't intend to change this year.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:32:26 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;Iceman wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;Don't intend to change this year.&lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Yeurk!</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:19:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Sorry to bring this up again....&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The link that i shared at the start of this thread had that nice blue split level Surfanic roller bag on.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; A few of you bought one and I didn't get round to buying one myself! I have just gone to buy one now and they are out of stock!  :(&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; So if anyone comes across any other websites selling them, please can you let me know? Would quite like one for myself...   :D   -)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Thanks!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:34:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description> Blackpool-skier,&lt;br /&gt; There's another bag/suitcase here:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.j2ski.com/ski-chat-forum/posts/list/8/13139.page&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.j2ski.com/ski-chat-forum/posts/list/8/13139.page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I e-mailed the shop about the concealed valuables bag in that other bag, and there isn't one   :shock: &lt;br /&gt; It was a labelling error    :lol: </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:51:39 GMT</pubDate>
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				&lt;cite&gt;AllyG wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;Blackpool-skier,&lt;br /&gt; There's another bag/suitcase here:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.j2ski.com/ski-chat-forum/posts/list/8/13139.page&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.j2ski.com/ski-chat-forum/posts/list/8/13139.page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I e-mailed the shop about the concealed valuables bag in that other bag, and there isn't one   :shock: &lt;br /&gt; It was a labelling error    :lol: &lt;/div&gt;
		&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Maybe the error label was in the secret pocket  -) </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:21:58 GMT</pubDate>
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