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Ski Bindings New & Old

Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:01:38 GMT

Please can anybody provide details of a UK source of ski bindings -all types, models and makes. I have searched the internet with little joy as most suppliers tend to be Stateside. I am looking for the UK aladin's cave of surplus 2005-todate bits and bobs.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Alistair :D

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:33:49 GMT

Cem stocks the spares for Look/Dynastar bindings in the UK. I think that's on behalf of the importers.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:28 GMT

Thanks Bandit, I was looking more towards Tyrolia or Head bindings for a possible future project.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:23:17 GMT

End of season, in the skip, behind any ski rental. I once "attained" a pair of Kneissl White Stars, c/w bindungs, from the skip at the side of the rental in Soll. Got 3 seasons from them, at the clattery end of the season.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:25:19 GMT

:lol: Dave, you do make me laugh, Could you keep you eyes open for a nice set of SL 110 Carve ABS in black :wink: And don't go charging me the earth for them. :lol:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:53:13 GMT

Skip Retrieval Identification Alert - This is what they look like Dave :wink:

And if there attached to a pair of these then even better :shock:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:57:32 GMT

I will keep my eyes open Alistair. See, all you need is a bit of clear communication!

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:48:38 GMT

Thanks Dave, but I think we will be waiting for some time :D

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:58:11 GMT

I once pulled a framed print out of a dumpster worth about $700, so you never know :wink:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:19:17 GMT

A print! $700! Trencher, I can knock you out an original for whooar, lemesee, errm, $695.99.
Whadderyathink?

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:08:27 GMT

I'm looking in the wrong skips and in the less lucrative areas. :(

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:36:26 GMT

AlistairS wrote:I'm looking in the wrong skips and in the less lucrative areas. :(

OK, Alistair, so we have now established the following:
1) You admit to spending your free time looking in skips, for whatever reason, maybe beyond the ken for most J2skiers....
2) In carrying out this subversive activity, you also admit to frequenting areas of toxic waste......

At least I frequent standard grade ski resorts, while Trencher obviously targets upmarket, affluent areas, probably A grade film stars.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:14:11 GMT

:lol: Dave, I hold you personally responsible for leading me astray. :wink: I was almost content until you offered wonderous stories of finding not only skis but bindings at the end of the rainbow. Life will simply not be the same from this day forward. Now, you've got my order, I think you should target the better skips around the Arlberg. There will be a drink in it for you :lol:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:16:24 GMT

P.S. Trencher, has been allocated the Hollywood and Beverly Hills area :lol:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:59:07 GMT

When I got married (nearly 27 years ago) we were totally broke and we pretty much renovated our house with material out of skips. It's amazing what you can find in them (although I have to admit I've never found any skis or bindings).

And when my sister was at Uni she got her fruit and veg for free by taking it from the waste pile outside the back of KwikSave :shock:

I have seen whole kitchens in skips in London, thrown out by very rich people with more money than sense who just want a new designer kitchen when there was nothing wrong with the old one.

I take our good, unwanted, old stuff to charity shops. Have you had a look in them for those bindings? :lol:

Ally

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:29:14 GMT

AllyG wrote:When I got married (nearly 27 years ago) we were totally broke and we pretty much renovated our house with material out of skips. It's amazing what you can find in them (although I have to admit I've never found any skis or bindings).

And when my sister was at Uni she got her fruit and veg for free by taking it from the waste pile outside the back of KwikSave :shock:

I have seen whole kitchens in skips in London, thrown out by very rich people with more money than sense who just want a new designer kitchen when there was nothing wrong with the old one.

I take our good, unwanted, old stuff to charity shops. Have you had a look in them for those bindings? :lol:

Ally

Thats a good call Ally, I have picked up old skis and bindings at charity shops and car boots

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:25:40 GMT

Ally and Ian, yes a good shout, I'm just wondering if I will get a little skiing in between charity shops, car boot sales and skip hunting. Can you imagine the interview for Ski & Snowboard, Was it a good season? Yes it was a vintage one, skip find one, a pair of Head 165cm circa 1972, Charity shop find two, a pair of leather bindings complete with rivets and lovely buckles :wink:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:51:07 GMT

AlistairS wrote:Ally and Ian, yes a good shout, I'm just wondering if I will get a little skiing in between charity shops, car boot sales and skip hunting. Can you imagine the interview for Ski & Snowboard, Was it a good season? Yes it was a vintage one, skip find one, a pair of Head 165cm circa 1972, Charity shop find two, a pair of leather bindings complete with rivets and lovely buckles :wink:

Hi Alistair,
Well, at least it will give you something to do whilst you're waiting for the start of the next European ski season :lol:

Best of luck with the skip/charity shop/carboot sale search :D

I'm sure you're already keeping an eye on eBay :D

Ally

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:11:09 GMT

AllyG wrote:

AlistairS wrote:Ally and Ian, yes a good shout, I'm just wondering if I will get a little skiing in between charity shops, car boot sales and skip hunting. Can you imagine the interview for Ski & Snowboard, Was it a good season? Yes it was a vintage one, skip find one, a pair of Head 165cm circa 1972, Charity shop find two, a pair of leather bindings complete with rivets and lovely buckles :wink:

Hi Alistair,
Well, at least it will give you something to do whilst you're waiting for the start of the next European ski season :lol:

Best of luck with the skip/charity shop/carboot sale search :D

I'm sure you're already keeping an eye on eBay :D

Ally

Oh yes, you can read my mind Ally, Ebay is within my ever expanding remit. :wink:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:25:11 GMT

Its not going to be easy to find a pair of these in the UK especially in black, they were discontinued after only 1 season (08/09). It's very much a low end binding, aimed at beginners / low intermediates. The toe piece has very little elastic travel, the heal piece is a simple up an out one rather than the diagonal release one used on the better models and it also has a substantial 7mm delta. Your not seriously thinking of mounting them on a pair of Phantoms are you?

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:34:34 GMT

Alistair,
Edge to Edge are selling off their old ski hire gear. Maybe they've got something that would do, for your mysterious and amusing project?

http://edge2edgeshop.co.uk/category/41/Skis

Ally

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 04:42:12 GMT

SwingBeep wrote:Its not going to be easy to find a pair of these in the UK especially in black, they were discontinued after only 1 season (08/09). It's very much a low end binding, aimed at beginners / low intermediates. The toe piece has very little elastic travel, the heal piece is a simple up an out one rather than the diagonal release one used on the better models and it also has a substantial 7mm delta. Your not seriously thinking of mounting them on a pair of Phantoms are you?

I think if Alistair could buy the Phantoms, binding price would not be an issue :lol: But for me with three P02s to put bindings on, it was. The Delta is a problem. I ended up using 5mm of lift under the toe pieces of the 171s, and 3mm on the 163s. In terms of use, I have been pleased with the performance. I use a DIN of 7/8 for the type of skiing I do, and have had no pre-releases. I like to find any small rise that will allow me to transition in the air, and land on the new edges. The Tyrolias haven't let me down doing this, but different neox bindings prereleased occasionally. They have released in a couple of tumbling falls, when I was hoping they would. Overall they've worked well for me.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:24:07 GMT

SwingBeep wrote: It's very much a low end binding, aimed at beginners / low intermediates. The toe piece has very little elastic travel, the heal piece is a simple up an out one rather than the diagonal release one used on the better models and it also has a substantial 7mm delta. Your not seriously thinking of mounting them on a pair of Phantoms are you?

That has to be the biggest angle I've seen :shock: Anyone for skiing on tiptoe!

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:04:14 GMT

Phantoms, I should be so lucky :lol: I am looking for a cost effective binding to fit a 13 SLR carve plate. Cost effective being the word. Research has indicated that the plate is compatible with the Following Bindings from the Tyrolia/Head stable:
Free Flex Pro 11, 15, 17, 18
Peak 18 X, 15, 12, 11
LD 12
SL 70 AC, SL 100, SL 110 Carve ABS
SP 130 ABS Demo Aero
SP 120 ABS, 100 ABS, 90 ABS, 75 ABS

I am just trying to find the best value for an Inter/advanced skier 5'11" 12.5 stone who likes recreational carving. :wink:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:08:39 GMT

AllyG wrote:Alistair,
Edge to Edge are selling off their old ski hire gear. Maybe they've got something that would do, for your mysterious and amusing project?

http://edge2edgeshop.co.uk/category/41/Skis

Ally

Ally! This is a very expensive offer! I buy new skis cheaper than their ex-rentals! My son buys ex-rentals imported from France for GBP80!

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:20:50 GMT

Alistair, your best bet would be to get something from Germany this shop http://www.sportprofi.de/Ski-Alpin/Skibindungen/Ski-Alpin-Bindungen-Z10 has the SL 110 Carve ABS in silver for 99.95 euro and this one http://www.besttrade-deutschland.de/index.php?cat=c1383_Head-Bindings.html has a large selection of Head / Tyrolia bindings all with 25% off. They are introducing all new line of bindings next year so there may be further discounts. You could also try ebay.de, I bought a brand new pair of Fisher X14s during the summer for 50 euro.

This article on balance and alignment might be worth reading before you decide which binding to buy http://hvst.org/files/Balance_-_Proper_Boot_Alignment_web_.pdf

Bandit, there are some i.e. the Mojo / Peak 7, 11 and 12 that have a delta of 9mm, scary! For some reason in 2008/09, when they updated the range they decided to increase the delta on the most of the mid range models in the Freeflex and Mojo ranges from 3.5mm to 7mm and 9mm respectively.

Trencher, interesting that you also had to reduce the delta in your case I'm guessing it was to 2mm. I mounted my P02s with a 2007/08 Freeflex Plus 14 / 3.5mm delta after a bit of testing I found that a 3mm lift worked best(I'm a lot smaller than you are) I also found that the range in which I was optimally balanced was incredibly small, less than 1mm. It would be interesting to talk to Kessler about this as all the Phantoms I've seen have either been mounted with either SP rental bindings (5mm delta) or Power 11s with 3mm and the P02s now seem to be sold with Freeflex Pros most of which have 7mm.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:32:40 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:

AllyG wrote:Alistair,
Edge to Edge are selling off their old ski hire gear. Maybe they've got something that would do, for your mysterious and amusing project?

http://edge2edgeshop.co.uk/category/41/Skis

Ally

Ally! This is a very expensive offer! I buy new skis cheaper than their ex-rentals! My son buys ex-rentals imported from France for GBP80!

Dave,
I meant maybe Alistair could ask them if they have any suitable bindings in their skip (or wherever they put their out of date stuff).

Ally

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:07:21 GMT

Thanks Ally and Swingbeep, Those German sites, Swingbeep, are just what I was hopeful of finding in the UK. They have a good stock of Head/Tyrolia bindings. I also found your post very useful and I have taken on board that I may have to part with a bit more cash to obtain the right binding. I have noticed that the SL range 2010/2011 have a diagonal release but I will still have to check the Delta angles. How are you finding the Freeflex Pro 14's in general?

Information much appreciated :D

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:26:46 GMT

SwingBeep wrote:

Trencher, interesting that you also had to reduce the delta in your case I'm guessing it was to 2mm. I mounted my P02s with a 2007/08 Freeflex Plus 14 / 3.5mm delta after a bit of testing I found that a 3mm lift worked best(I'm a lot smaller than you are) I also found that the range in which I was optimally balanced was incredibly small, less than 1mm. It would be interesting to talk to Kessler about this as all the Phantoms I've seen have either been mounted with either SP rental bindings (5mm delta) or Power 11s with 3mm and the P02s now seem to be sold with Freeflex Pros most of which have 7mm.

Maybe the answer can be seen with these 155 skis. The Head and Fischer skis are mounted to the manufacturers mark. The binding position on the P02s is far forward. In part, that may be because the effective edge extends closer to the tip. (actually I had forgotten that the head ski demo bindings are actually set forward a bit on the adjustments)

The result of mounting bindings further forward should reduce the need for forward pressure, and the high delta would facilitate that ????

I found that amount of lift that i liked under the toe piece varied with the type of turn I typically make with a particular ski.. So I needed less lift on the 163s, on which I typically use cross under transitions, and more on the 171s where I would use a more relaxed crossover transition. I had a few trips to our friendly ski shop to rummage through their box of odd mounting screws, while figuring this out.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:30:15 GMT

SwingBeep wrote:

Bandit, there are some i.e. the Mojo / Peak 7, 11 and 12 that have a delta of 9mm, scary! For some reason in 2008/09, when they updated the range they decided to increase the delta on the most of the mid range models in the Freeflex and Mojo ranges from 3.5mm to 7mm and 9mm respectively.

After having Skier Alignment undertaken, I now have to aim for a zero Delta angle on my bindings, which invariably means using a toe lifter to cancel out the ramp angle built into the heel on an alpine binding. Feedback from the 1st pair I had mounted with a toe lifter, I've found that my legs are a lot less tired and I'm more "skeleton stacked" over my bindings. It's made quite a difference.

Does anyone know for certain why binding manufacturers build these big angles into bindings?

Just read the Alignment Article. Very good read. The web link is not working for me (404 error), so I pasted the site address into my browser and found the page from their menu.

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:37:27 GMT

I've fixed the link in my previous post.

I have the Freeflex Plus 14 from 07/08 (this is their 4th season) I've had no problems with them as yet. Nearer to home Ski Bartlett have some Fisher FR11 &17s they are the same as the Freeflex Pluses http://www.skibartlett.com/ski-bindings-312-c.asp

If you want to assess your balance before deciding you could try this method http://custom-bootfitting.southernski.com/out-of-balance.html using shims to simulate the delta, you could also make a balance board as shown on page 214 of this book http://tinyurl.com/6xsdgsy
If you need any screws, lifter plates etc. there's a spares catalogue here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/51907745/08-09-Tyrolia-Head-Spare-Parts-EN-DE

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:09:14 GMT

Thanks Swingbeep for another excellent post, its set me up for some bedtime reading :wink: I am also liking the look of the FR 11's. I feel much better informed and now armed with the right questions before buying the bindings.

Thanks :D

I will keep you posted

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:41:26 GMT

Update to the post

Thanks to Trencher, Swingbeep and all the others who have contributed to this post. I am now the proud owner of a pair of Palmer PO2 with Fischer FR11 freeflex bindings. :D No more skips for me! Now where's the snowdome :wink:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:24:35 GMT

Welcome to the club :)

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:01:43 GMT

Thanks Trencher, Now all I've got to do is put down some graceful tracks :( I doubt I will be leaving brake enhanced tracks for a while yet however, I will have a good go at it :wink: These are the tools to do it and their rather nice to say the least :D :D :D

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:17:51 GMT

Glad to hear you're sorted Alistair. Well done :thumbup:

Watch you don't trip over the fronts though, when you're turning. Those skis look rather wide :lol:

Ally

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:07:33 GMT

Thanks Ally,
I'm very pleased with them however, I think my photographic qualities need a bit of work :lol:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:09:55 GMT

MMmmm looking good :thumbup:

Re:Ski Bindings New & Old

Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:37:35 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:MMmmm looking good :thumbup:

Ian, thanks. They will need 2-3 waxes and the edges polishing before being put into circulation as they came in cellophane wrap with the factory prep bases. Once done they should pass your vigorous quality control :wink: