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Started by Iceman in Ski Technique - 24 Replies

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Iceman posted Dec-2012

I no way consider myself to be a highly skilled skier. However, i can 'get down' most things - it might not be pretty and stylish all the time.

However, there is one occasion that i consider turning around and looking elsewhere for a route home. Sometimes the toys getthrown out of the pram!

MOGULS!

How to ski them without traveling to the edge if the piste edge and making life very hard?

What are the big hints and tips i can try out next week so i don't have to look elsewhere or get a sweat on at the sheer sight of them?
The Northern Monkey. Jan'23 Les Arcs

Edited 1 time. Last update at 19-Dec-2012

Ranchero_1979
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posted Dec-2012


Before trying to ski moguls hard I first take a steady run just focusing on pivot of skis.

Basically with modern skis, we now spend large percentage of time utilizing skis edges (shape), and high high angulation to perform carving turns. Even if there will need to be a element of pivot to control speed on steep slopes.

Therefore we start to lose the art of pivot. Chose a not to steep slope, focus on a single object (helps with separation) and go down pivot, pivot. Requires (flat feet). Suprising how strange it feels 1st time. After few 100m will be getting hang of it. Focus on keeping body downhill and getting skis perpendicular to slope in each direction.

Then when you hit the moguls, same skills will control your speed and let you flow down them.

Ian Wickham
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posted Dec-2012

Not a great lover of moguls due to dodgy knees, I tend to keep away from them these days, and I tend to watch people struggling down a mogul field from the comfort of a chair lift thinking what is the point !!!!

Andyhull
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posted Dec-2012

I love moguls but my knees aren't so keen, we have to come to a compromise during a week away.

Innsbrucker
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posted Dec-2012

I guess flexible knees help?

Moguls are nice for sharpening up one's general skiing I think.

OldAndy
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posted Dec-2012

For me the difficult bit with moguls is that the slope tells me where I have to turn, whereas on a smooth piste I can choose.

I've never been very good with moguls - don't think I have the reaction times to manage them well.
:cry:

They are OK as long as the faces aren't too icy and there aren't too many people about. Busy mogul slope? My idea of skiing hell!

I focus on finishing each and every turn really crisply, this keeps my speed down and keeps me in control. In control means I am a happy skier.
:)
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Tony_H
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posted Dec-2012

I'm guessing you're talking about the badly chopped up run home each night?
If its just donuts of snow, crash straight through it all.

However if its actual hard moguls you're talking about, I'm as useless as you claim on them! I try and manage to get down them fine, but not using the style or technique that you're supposed to. I never had any lessons so maybe that's what we both need to consider?
www  New and improved me

Andyoneil
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posted Dec-2012

I too am in the "chuffing hate moguls" camp

I've had a bit of a lesson (they appeared in our way on a general session in Killington) and was told there are two real ways to tackle them:

The Zip-Line (as they do it in freestyle at Olympics) where you use lots of knees and follow the line through the moguls
or
The standard way with normal skis and normal knees is to actually put the turns in on TOP of the mound and thus if you miss one you've got room for the next (assuming you're not right at slope's edge. That's the theory anyway

One of our group had the zip line sorted - but she's 5' 1" and weighs 7st so has tiny skis.......

me - I'm still bobbins and usually end up in a heap but at least I know roughly what I'm doing if I have to (though I too will avoid if possible). Zip line doesn't work when you're tall, fat and have poor technique at the best of times.....

Its like all things ski - needs a lot of practice but is no fun falling and eating snow a lot whilst you do so. For a one or two weeks a year skiier like me I can't trade off the time needed to get good versus my overall holiday enjoyment so I avoid like the plague and crash through as far as possible when all else fails

Topic last updated on 22-December-2012 at 08:02