Messages posted by : Mike from NS
I noticed your post and noticed the time saying to my self (a sign of the Pavel Quiozz ie. talking to yourself!) There's a post from Ellistine and it is 1:15 in England! Guess he's keen after all! It would be nice to go skiing tomorrow even if not on snow ... it would be different ... but nice. Have a good time!! Mike :D |
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Looking at the clues or hints I'm "thinking" that we are delving too deeply into meanings that may not be there. Pavel says the answer is so obvious. Knowing Pavel as I do, I know he is throughly enjoying (in a good way) our struggles. He enjoys studying how people behave and why they behave the way they do. He feeds us a clue with complete expectation on who will bring what answers due to the hint. He has a game running on the side of all of this just for his own entertainment. I expect he is keeping a tally of who responds the way he expected or not. Retirement must be a lonely time when the snow melts :D
As I menmtioned earlier Pavel is a thinker and from that he is a planner. He says "think like me..." The clues offered of how I use the index, Ellistine is sure to have used the index, Agusl would loved to have had the index and Dshenberger will use it in November. Heck ... he will use it a lot sooner than November. With my present offering, "November" is a Red Herring ... a clue to throw us off the scent... Don't you love my long winded replies :?: :D OK, Pavel plans for future needs and part of this is going on his yearly "hunts" for overstocked ski related items at the end of a ski season. He is planning for his furure needs. When I bought the car I was planning for the ski transporting need. I don't care for the roof rack system. When we buy a house we assess and plan for the future costs and maintenance needs.... Stick with me ... I'm almost there... :wink: So, as in past Pavel Quizzes, just as in this one.... I have wandered all over the place. Checking any remote thought I have with our friend Mr. Google & company; I have lost sleep and work hours, my wife has been driven to submit answers - just to maintain a level of sanity (but we did very much enjoy your visit Pavel!)., and provided overly wordy answers. So now, if you were a planning type of person - which we all are to some extent - wouldn't you like to see the people to whom you were selling a lift ticket, to have a plan --- even if that plan was to enjoy a day's skiing? I submit with this reply that the index is the FNI (Future Needs Index) in skiing terms this WILL be called the Pavel Index. It is a means of predicting future needs based on stastical studies of skiers' learning curves and their progression - a Gaussian curve (plotted data of the typical skier). 95% of the skiers use this (without even knowing it (?)). This tells us that 95% of the skiers are typical and will have future needs. If we didn't realize this, then we are not the planners of which Pavel would be proud. WE have future needs ... paint the house every so often, get a new car WHICH WILL HOLD THE SKIS meeting future needs. If we use the FNI or as it is now known, the PI we know we must plan for our future needs now (or in November). If Agusl had applied this value he would be glad he had. :( If we think we are normal typical skiers then we are amoung the 95% = FNI and would hasten to save money by planning NOW as we learn along the path of life!! One aspect of this index I'm saving until the next chapter is how the Pavel Index uses the stastical analysis of how we learn and thereby our future needs can change from year to year. The learning curve makes the PI (or Planning Index) a little trickier to explain clearly. And you thought my past answers have been a stretch..... but this answer too is subject to modification :!: Skiing is all for the fun and so is the Great Pavel Quizz!!! Mike :wink: |
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Looking back at some of today's hints.
The person pointing to where the sound came from is LEARNING We cannot get out side of the box because we are not LEARNING from our past posts And the other aspect to which Pavel refers to something I told him was of how I had felt I had LEARNED more this year and also how I felt I had so much to learn... I recognized my ability had a lot to grow. So despite I feel many of all of our answers had in many ways answered the original clues, perhaps the Pavel Index has as much to do with our learning curve (bell curve - gaussian distribution) as much as our own knowledge of how we would rate as beginner to advanced skier. As we learn we can save money by not making the same mistakes twice, our skiing will improve as we learn how to use our learning index to the fullest. If our learning is mindful and we do in fact truly learn from our mistakes then the Pavel Index may be a natural log function where the final level attained is infinite as we learn exponentially if the reward is perceived as worth the effort. Learning produces knowledge! And if we have learned anything from the Pavel quizz it is that we need deep thinking ability to gain the knowledge to reach the pinicales we wish to attain. Maybe a more pondering sleepless night tonight. Possibly I will dream of Pavel at his computer typing out the answer in preparation for June 11. I'm sure he is dreaming of all of us trying. He probably has to explain to his wife in the morning why he has such a solid grin on the awakening face!. Mike :P |
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Sometimes it helps to read our own posts. I just did that and it want to offer this. The Pavel Index is in reality an index which describes how we know our own ability! If we don't know how "good" or how "not so good" we really are when it comes to handling the skis it could indeed become a dangerous sport. If we try to make ourselves out to be better than we are then it could cost us a lot of money in may ways We might buy the skis which we can't handle, we could become injured and injuries are expensive. Pavel wouldn't let us on the hill if we didn't know if we could handle it or not. If we aren't used to a highly powered sports car nor a high performance ski we could be in trouble If we don't know how to fly a fighter jet, then we shouldn't get behind the controls; if we can't swim, we should keep out of the deep water. We must be true to ourselves and then we can enjoy the learning (which is another hint!) and move up the Pavel Index from 1 = beginner to 4= expert. It is all about the skis if we know which ski to "drive" Mike :wink: :!: EDIT EDIT *********************************** EDIT EDIT I have just realized that I have infact deleted a really good answer to which I refered above as "reading our own posts....... It really was a good answer too!!! I must try to re-build it later.... EDIT EDIT *********************************** EDIT EDIT :P |
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That's a really good point, Ellistine. And just another thought on the needs and wants and the "controlling factors" of a purchase. Pavel mentioned that I "use" the magic number as he saw when we met. I just realized he may have been thinking of the last car we had purchased. I had explained to him that the factor "controlling" the purchase decision was how well the skis would fit. As we looked at different cars the one criteria which was paramount was how easily we could transport the skis!!! It was worth about 5 to 6 points on the Pavel Index! Mike :thumbup: |
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I again agree with you Dshenberger. Pavel's hints almost indicate we must read between the lines - and within most of the quotation marks. Have you all noticed how many times he tells us to "think"? He says Ellistine and I could answer "dangerous" questions. Dangerous seemed out of place and really put before us as a hint. And he admires Ellistine's "problem solving" abilities. Also the letter was "hidden" in the house ... We all know Pavel to be a great thinker and he tells us to think. What is to think if it is not to reason. Skiing is percieived to be dangerous. This is the perception many have. If we look up reasoning indexes we find Perceptual Reasoning Index which is a way we solve problems through visualization rather than verbal means. Pavel was once impressed by my observation of the ski inthe back of his car. I suppose I "solved" my curosity of what ski it was by studying the picture. If my curosity was a problem then I solved that problem through the use of visual perception. When we buy a ski (or anything for that matter) we have a perception of how it will work for us or make our life better. How good will the purchase make us feel. Afterall buying something is supposed to make us feel good. That's the perception. In purchasing that house we must be as certain as possible it will serve our perceived needs or we are wasting our money. With a list of wants and needs in hand we go shopping! So.... If, as the fussy skiing shopper, we say the Pavel Index is 8.5 out of 10 , and list our needs and wants in a ski purchase in a weighted manner to a maximum of 10 and let that index be the determining factor in the "to purchase" or "not to purchase" decision (since buying something is mostly the fulfillment of that emotional need). When the ski we see matches our need and want list to at least 8.5 then we can "safely" make the purchase knowing we have reasoned it carefully and the Pavel Index justifies the purchase. The cost of emotional purchases can be high! If we weight the ideal length say 3 points, the ideal stiffness 1.5 points, the perfect turning radius 2.0 points, the ski's desirable weight 3 points, the top sheet graphics .5 points on our want list and then assess the skis we look at against this list we would have reasoned using the Pavel Index it was a wise purchase which will meet our perceputally reasoned needs and wants. And now it is about 4am in Weymouth :? I hope Pavel likes long winded replies :wink: Good night John Boy :!: Mike |
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I'm glad you returned safely, Ellistine. You had a nice change of scenery I hope!
Now, I'm completely confused :!: Judy !!! put on the coffee ... it's going to be a long night !!!! I'm thinking we may be looking at something we didn't realize existed. Something like the CTI or the PTI. But last night I was so confused that I put off what I had to do (the quizz taking all my attention) and tonight I must leave to sort out this later. Mike :( |
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I'm in trouble because if the quizz goes to a vote then Ellistine, you will win! Now, that's not a bad thing at all, but .... So I must think harder and this has produced another thought which is so far off the mark I expect that I'm a bit hesitant to offer this. But anyway here goes... Let's call the number the Pavel index as he has suggested it will be known in the future. Let's use the PI to really mean "Preformance Improvement". This as a number will be a percentage of the skier's improvement over the past year, month, week or what ever interval is chosen. A Gaussian distribution aspect possibility. If we can put a number to how we have learned to control the ski it may be of value in selecting our ski, being safe, establishing a level of valid competency, a level of confidence. If we are confident we will be relaxed and will ski better. The past year I felt improvement as I felt relaxed - more "one with the snow" as it were. So my value of PI, the Preformance Improvement number (or the Pavel Index) is 125. This means I most humbley feel that over the 2006 -2007 season I felt 25% a better skier than in the 2005-2006 season. Knowing this number gave me the confidence to "work" the skis better and in more control. A better skiing experience! Now isn't that a stretch :!: Mike :lol: |
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