J2Ski Forum Posts and Replies by cem

try the 27.5 in the vector, it is only the heel and ankle area which are much lower volume...there is no reason the go up in length as the volume comes down

the footbeds will not compress much over time, they also don't take up much more room than the stock insole in the boot, they mostly fill the gaps where the stock insole does not

WAskier wrote:what is your ability level i have a feeling that boot will be just fine by the description of your foot 3cm is to much for a hp boot but that boot has a high volume liner if it starts to pack out a bit move to a little thicker sock. socks are king! feel like your boots are to tight go spend the 20 on a new set of light weight "ski socks" froot of the loom tall socks do not count!

IMO 3cm is too much for any fit High Performance or recreational! the shell fit is the most important part liners pack down shells do not. and that liner packs a whole heap after a few days skiing

freshfreshpowder i would try the smaller size in the same boot or possibly something a little lower volume, maybe the head vector as an option just a shade narrower but much better heel grip...of course all of this is speculation without seeing your feet

on the insole front, the superfeet green works pretty well as an off the shelf device, personally i prefer to build a custom product to each and every individual foot where possible but as an off the shelf insert they are about as good as it gets

based on what you have said, everything was looking about right till you declared the 3cm behind your heel, they ideally should have no more than 2cm occasionally we need to go to 2.5 if the foot is very high volume but this is rare. the edge is one of the widest boots on the market, great boot for the right foot, but you almost certainly need a footbed to fill that arch cavity and most likely a smaller or at least lower volume boot, the footbed in the boot that is supplied is not heat mouldable it is merely a auto adapt foam which will compress under load, it does not fill anything or give any level of support.... the front clips on a new boot really do not want to be ratcheted over too far when the boot is new.

when you put a boot on the correct size the toes will feel jammed into the front until you have done the boot up properly (top 2 buckles first and firm, then flex before doing the others loosely) at this point when you flex the toes will pull back a little and the whole thing will settle down. the biggest problem with this and many other boots is that there is lots of lovely soft foam which holds your foot very snugly when it is new and makes a big boot feel small

just another point....the BOOT needs to fit ie. the shell and liner, the buckles are just "the laces on the shoe" they are there to snug things up they should not be all the way to the last notch on a new boot they shouldn't be close to it, having to tighten the buckles down like this is just a sign of a boot with too much volume, it may be the right length but if there is a 1/2 pint foot in a pint size boot then there will be loads of room to move around, especially when the liner has packed down a bit

^^^^ sounds about right, when you put the boot on your toe will touch the front, it will stay there until the boot is clipped properly and you flex forward.

answer the following and i MAY be able to give you a clue as to if they are close BTW internet bootfitting is risky but we may get an idea

1 what size shoe do you buy
2 is your foot narrow, medium, wide , very wide
3 do you have a high, medium, low or flat arch
4 what size is the boot (mondopoint size 27.5, 28.0 etc)
5 do you have a off the shelf or custom footbed in the boot or just what came with it?
6 take the liner out the boot and place your foot in the empty shell, with your toes lightly brushing the front how much space is there behind your heel
7 what is the boot make and model?

please no one else answer these questions yet let the OP give the answers and i will come back with my thoughts

more like carpet tile than cardboard,(on offence to carper tiles) but mostly unsupportive cheap soft mush which gives little or no support

Sarah,

i can't recommend you anywhere in your location or the resort you are going to, but if you can spare the time to do this properly you most definitely should, if you can i would get to Chamonix and go see Jules Mills or his associate Damien Amblard at Sanglard Sports he can be contacted via his own site www.thebootroom.fr ignore the racing bit of the website, you WILL need an appointment to see them but they will make sure you have the best boots possible for your feet.

good luck getting sorted and ask away if you have any questions

putting something in the boot rather than the stock "cardboard" is the best way to ensure a great fit, the footbed is the foundation of the fit, you wouldn't buy a house that had no foundations so why ski without a foundation under your foot..... as you ski you apply pressure form edge to edge, your feet roll to do this, if there is no support then the arch of the foot has to collapse until it either hits the bottom of the boot or the muscles reach the end of their elastic travel before you can edge the ski, the footbed will fill the gaps and allow a much more dynamic transition from edge to edge and reduce a load of the fatigue that can come from skiing without.... the key is not how much or little you can pay for them, but if they are off the shelf that they are the best ones for YOU and if they are custom made that the guy/gal making them really knows the foot and the product and can select the correct thing for you, for example avoid 1 product fits all, in my store we have 5 custom products from one brand and an infinitely adaptable (in terms of density) product form another brand....different feet need different solutions