Ski areas that are already open in the Alps are locked in their usual early season battle to see who can offer the most terrain to the first skiers keen to get on the slopes at the very start of the 22-23 season.
The cross border Samnaun-Ischgl area has opened with 82km (51 miles) of slopes available, going straight in in the number one spot for already-open Austrian terrain.
That said Solden, which is into its third month of 22-23 operations already, has upped its open ski slopes to 71km and with neighbouring Obergurgl on 54km that's 125km (78 miles) open on the one lift pass.
Ischgl, Obergurgl and Solden are all in Austria's Tirol region which always has the most terrain open in the Alps from September to November, the province on its own having more than the total terrain open in France or Italy and probably Switzerland too in these autumn months.
The Cervinia-Zermatt area which has opened over 150km (towards 100 miles) of slopes around late-November/early-December pre-pandemic, does not appear to be bothering to compete too hard yet, although it has opened cross-border terrain for the first time with skiing from Switzerland to Italy and 46km of slopes reported open.
Elsewhere it is mostly Austrian glaciers next, all opening much more terrain than they've had open the past few months. Hintertux is up to 43km and the Stubai and Kaunertal both or 39km.