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Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:17:12 GMT

Pointed out to my cousin who has just switched from skis to snowboarding and hurt herself, that snowboarding is far more dangerous then skiing. She thinks not!

Googled for a while, did not come up with much, anyone got figures and what type of injury are most common

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:16:15 GMT

Snowboarders injure more skiers than skiers injure snowboarders

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:36:36 GMT

geno68 wrote:Snowboarders injure more skiers than skiers inkure snowboarders

Considering that I have been hit from up hill by four skiers, and no snowboarders, My experience is very different from your's.

I think a better way to look at it is, that you are more likely to be hit by younger people.

As far as snowboard injuries go, if snowboarding is more popular with younger people, then you might expect more injuries from a group that that is less risk adverse, and has not fully developed reasoning, and judgment. I both ski and board, and don't think there is a lot of difference in the risk, based on the many falls I have had.

In terms of which injuries are worse, the predominance of leg, and especially knee injuries among skiers, is something that should be noted.

Trencher

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:38:00 GMT

Usually wrist and lower back injuries are typical me thinks with boarding.
Personally dont like both my legs strapped to one board.
Oh and bieng hit by skiers as boarders just sit/fall down just after the brow of hills where they cannot be seen. :D

http://www.ski-injury.com/specific-injuries/wrist

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:30:28 GMT

Trencher wrote:

geno68 wrote:Snowboarders injure more skiers than skiers inkure snowboarders

Considering that I have been hit from up hill by four skiers, and no snowboarders, My experience is very different from your's.

I think a better way to look at it is, that you are more likely to be hit by younger people.

As far as snowboard injuries go, if snowboarding is more popular with younger people, then you might expect more injuries from a group that that is less risk adverse, and has not fully developed reasoning, and judgment. I both ski and board, and don't think there is a lot of difference in the risk, based on the many falls I have had.

In terms of which injuries are worse, the predominance of leg, and especially knee injuries among skiers, is something that should be noted.

Trencher

It is all down to the individual experience but my wife was nearly hit this year and guess what it was not skier, my opinion is if they hit me they better make a good job of it
because if they don't you might see the first headless snowboarder :evil: :evil:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:09:36 GMT

mark203 - what've you got against snowboarding ? I don't think there's any evidence of one being more injury-prone than the other
It probably depends on how hard you ski/ride, and how hard and fast you push with both of them.

geno68 - where did you get the info for your statement ? Any hard facts ?

Trencher - I kind of know what you're saying, but after being taken out on my last trip in January by a 50+ year old Italian skier who cut across the front of me at speed without looking upslope and despite me being a good 6-7m away from him, I do disagree slightly; bad slope etiquette
is bad slope etiquette whether done by a skier or snowboarder

Peakmonster - skiers AND snowboarders stop just over the brows of downslopes where they can't be seen - the fact is they're all idiots who do this

"Wickers" -I guess by the crass comment you're a skier then ? And what happens if a skier crashes into you ? Will we see a headless skier then ?

and if anyone was wondering, yes, i'm a snowboarder (who doesn't crash into people OR stop where he can't be seen)

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:18:03 GMT

Andy A wrote:mark203 - what've you got against snowboarding ? I don't think there's any evidence of one being more injury-prone than the other
It probably depends on how hard you ski/ride, and how hard and fast you push with both of them.

Andy I have nothing against snowboarding

I know that ski injuries have declined by 50% dur to release bindings and ski brakes since the 70s. Snowboards have neither of these so logic kind of tells me that if you fall over with both legs strapped to a board you are more likely to hurt yourself.

according to the internet

10% of ski accidents result from a collision with another person or object, 5% are lift related and 5% occur as the result of equipment failure

on snowboards forearm and shoulder injuries are most common 60%, followed by shoulder, then lower leg and head injuries

The risk of dying is 0.7 deaths per million skier visits, and 0.46 deaths per million for snowboarders.

The risk of death or injury

1 death in 1,000,000 days' skiing is the fatality rate for winter board sports.

In these terms, canoeing (1 fatality in every 750,000 trips) is worse - and scuba diving is five times as risky.

2.8 injuries per 1,000 days spent skiing or snowboarding is the injury rate and it compares badly with that of other sports. Parachutists, for instance, may be ten times more likely to die with each jump than skiers are with each day spent at Val d'Isere but, assuming they survive, they are two thirds less likely to be hurt.

365 is the average number of consecutive days you would have to be skiing or snowboarding before experiencing a reportable injury. If you spent the same time playing rugby, the chances are that you would not still be playing by the end of the year.

67,000 rugby injuries require a trip to Accident and Emergency in the UK every year, and studies of competitive rugby players have found there is one injury per person for every ten games played - or around two injuries per match. That rate makes rugby a more dangerous sport than boxing, mountain climbing and even - for those feeling patriotic - American football.

1 death in 8,200 pregnancies.

If all these statistics encourage a little risk aversion, then it is worth considering that by that logic we might as well stop being human beings - quite literally. Giving birth carries a greater risk of fatality than any sport.

Sources: Health and Safety Executive, Rospa, National Ski Area Association, British Parachuting Association, Ski-Injury.com, Sportsmed, ABC

PS this I found funny - Parachutists, for instance, may be ten times more likely to die with each jump than skiers are with each day spent at Val d'Isere but, assuming they survive, they are two thirds less likely to be hurt.

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:26:58 GMT

lmao, thanks for that useful insight into the stat's, Mark.

i'll feel safer now when i'm out riding... ...i think :lol:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:49:27 GMT

Andy A wrote:
Trencher - I kind of know what you're saying, but after being taken out on my last trip in January by a 50+ year old Italian skier who cut across the front of me at speed without looking upslope and despite me being a good 6-7m away from him, I do disagree slightly; bad slope etiquette
is bad slope etiquette whether done by a skier or snowboarder

Reasoning is supposed to be fully developed by the age of 27, But blissful ignorance can be a life long affliction :wink:

I don't think the original question can really be answered, because it depends on the person, not the statistics. The injuries I fear, would be common to both snowboards, and skis. Losing an edge and sliding into a hard object, hitting a rut, or soft snow causing a catapult type fall, or a collision with another person. These are the things I worry about, and it doesn't matter what tool I'm sliding on.

Trencher

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:05:16 GMT

I don't think the original question can really be answered, because it depends on the person, not the statistics. The injuries I fear, would be common to both snowboards, and skis. Losing an edge and sliding into a hard object, hitting a rut, or soft snow causing a catapult type fall, or a collision with another person. These are the things I worry about, and it doesn't matter what tool I'm sliding on.

I totally agree !! :thumbup:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:31:47 GMT

Andy A wrote:mark203 - what've you got against snowboarding ? I don't think there's any evidence of one being more injury-prone than the other
It probably depends on how hard you ski/ride, and how hard and fast you push with both of them.

geno68 - where did you get the info for your statement ? Any hard facts ?

Trencher - I kind of know what you're saying, but after being taken out on my last trip in January by a 50+ year old Italian skier who cut across the front of me at speed without looking upslope and despite me being a good 6-7m away from him, I do disagree slightly; bad slope etiquette
is bad slope etiquette whether done by a skier or snowboarder

Peakmonster - skiers AND snowboarders stop just over the brows of downslopes where they can't be seen - the fact is they're all idiots who do this

"Wickers" -I guess by the crass comment you're a skier then ? And what happens if a skier crashes into you ? Will we see a headless skier then ?

and if anyone was wondering, yes, i'm a snowboarder (who doesn't crash into people OR stop where he can't be seen)

Andy old man that is not crass that is a promise, I feel incredible strongly about the etiquette of society and slope today, if this boarder would have hit my wife today as we speak
I would have been a widower he was travelling that fast, I have no issue's with snowboarders I would be saying the same thing if he was a skier, how many years would he have got for killing
my wife I guess it would have been manslaughter five to seven.
Don't protect these people they should be kicked off the slope :evil:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:06:37 GMT

i am with wickham on etiquette issue. however my experience, shared with those with whom i ride, is that - out of control individuals on whatever tool excepted - it is far more likely to be skiers causing collisions with boarders. i guess as skiing has been going on for years and boarding is realtively young, some skiers can't grasp the idea that a boarder will be going from side to side down a slope rather than just straight down. the disciplines of soft boarding and hard boarding create really different shapes on the slopes just as with skiing disciplines, watch someone do a couple of turns and you'll have a good idea of what they're likely to do next.

i bet there's some interesting stats on injuries, for both sports, occurring on the first and last days of trips. wrists first day (easy fall, maybe not even moving), head and shoulders last day (over confidence)

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:08:54 GMT

benny12345 wrote:i am with wickham on etiquette issue. however my experience, shared with those with whom i ride, is that - out of control individuals on whatever tool excepted - it is far more likely to be skiers causing collisions with boarders. i guess as skiing has been going on for years and boarding is realtively young, some skiers can't grasp the idea that a boarder will be going from side to side down a slope rather than just straight down. the disciplines of soft boarding and hard boarding create really different shapes on the slopes just as with skiing disciplines, watch someone do a couple of turns and you'll have a good idea of what they're likely to do next.

i bet there's some interesting stats on injuries, for both sports, occurring on the first and last days of trips. wrists first day (easy fall, maybe not even moving), head and shoulders last day (over confidence)

Thats a bit formal Benny :lol:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:16:09 GMT

yo wicks, chill out baby

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:19:18 GMT

benny12345 wrote:yo wicks, chill out baby

I have not been called that since school, your not a teacher by any chance :lol:

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:04:15 GMT

I had heard it say that boarding was less dangerous to knees - but having said that I did my ACL skiing and my eldest daughter did her ACL boarding - although she is a more "radical" boarder than I am skier!! I bought her a helmet and back brace for boarding so maybe the only bit left to do damage to was her knee!!

I have had the operation for reconstruction of my ACL and just returned from my first weeks skiing post-op - and can still walk - hooray!
She is probably going to have to have hers done at the end of this season - she refuses to have it done if there is a chance she will miss snow - she lives in Switzerland !

Re:Skiing v Snowboarding Injuries

Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:50:15 GMT

365 is the average number of consecutive days you would have to be skiing or snowboarding before experiencing a reportable injury.

I'd like to test this theory :D