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Spinning on the skis

Mike from NS — GMT

Now as you can see from the avatar, some may consider me an "old dog". So then I would like some of you more skilled skiers to teach me a new trick. Specifically: spinning :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFihpicUZBI As in this U-Tube video: how is it done? Where are the pressures? Are twin tip skis a must for this trick? I can easily get turned around backwards but can't seem to continue the motion. :cry: And if this has been discussed before - please direct me towards the thread. :D Thanks, Mike :wink:

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Gareth Fair — GMT

Hi Mike, Me toooo! I can spin around through 180 degrees and ski backwards but cant seem to manage to spin back the other way.I keep telling myself that you need twin tips for this but I'm not sure. Help. :(

Spinning on the skis

souldrive — GMT

lol, i've been trying it since our rep in fernie showed me the trick couple of years ago! still no joy. Spent half my time trying it in Andorra last week but it's that 2nd 180 again. I was actually contemplating posting the same thread. Please help us!!

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Jan I Stenmark — GMT

Ok, So now we are really talking about my sphere of influence 8) The reason you can make 180 and not 360 is simple! The action to make 180 is a standard ski technique; you just ski up the hill, but quicker. You probably think of it as a “Hockey Stop” only done slightly more actively ... The reason you will stop there is because you are leaning very slightly forward and possibly looking at your skis :( You MUST stand upright. As you get to about the 160 mark, stand bolt upright and keep your ankles, knees and hips fully extended. Now use the leading hand and shoulder to “look” for the remainder of the turn. As for the skis, you must be able to sense a non-edging ski and allow it to be absolutely flat. Any edge will reduce your rotation and stop you half way. (As you have found) Once you have got this sorted you will discover that you can edge very aggressively into the first 2/3rds of the rotation but then you must totally release the edge and allow the skis to be completely flat. I once read a post by Pavel who said that skis are very shy and if you look at them they get silly and behave in a random way. This is very true for spinning. Look UP, look ROUND and NEVER look at your skis! Perhaps tomorrow I will post some video of the various stages of spinning :lol: What ever you manage or don’t, make sure you do it with hope in your heart and Elan in your soul! I am happy to answer questions like this all night long Jan

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Mike from NS — GMT

Hi Gareth & souldrive, It looks like Jan is going to take us on in his "school of spinning" :!: :thumbup: Thanks Jan :!: :!: Spinning is something that looks so easy until you try it. It looks like a person who can spin has a superb sense of balance and where to apply pressure - and when to apply it. Your analysis of why I can't get any farther than the first 180 is about 100% accurate. I speak for all interested in acquiring the technique, I'm sure, when I say I'm looking forward to step by step video you suggested posting. What I do now is hockey stop (left foot downhill) and drift around to travelling backwarks in a slight wedge. Like the others said, I can't keep the revolution going - and just glide to a hault. I tried this morning pressuring the heels as the wedge began but it didn't make any difference. :cry: I'll bet I'm looking down too. So next time out I'll be working with your instructions and memory of the pending video. I always have hope in my heart and if it helps, I'll put Elan in my soul but it'll be Atomics (SX9) on my feet :!: :D I have a good handle on side slipping so I expect from what you say of watching the edges spinning will be helped by this side slip edging "confidence". :roll: I appreciate your reply Jan and look forward to spinning not only on figure skates - and hopefully better on the skis. So like Gaerth, I feel we need twin tips to execute this correctly. Say it's not so !!! He's got us under his wing Gaerth and souldrive :!: Thanks Jan, Mike :wink:

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Jan I Stenmark — GMT

Hi All, Here’s a link to some fairly dire video … www.auhof.co.uk/spinning.asp I promises to try harder with the presentational quality next time ! Happy spinning, Jan

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Mike from NS — GMT

Thanks for the video Jan :!: As you say, it looks like the pole had some action in the spin but I understand otherwise from your directions. It looks as though you are leading with your shoulder. Is this so? Also I can understand, now, how any edging will kill the motion. My wife and I have been closely studying your video and she too hopes to learn the spinning. A couple of more revolutions at the slower your speed might help give a clearer understanding. You don't need a great slope to get this working it seems. We're off to our local hill to learn this spinning "trick" next weekend. :-) Thanks to you and your cameraman:!:, Mike :wink:

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Mike from NS — GMT

I gave spinning a feeble try yesterday - time was against me and the snow was too good not to just keep moving. I did have some success by the third try and with a bit more practice I can see it working. Jan, I'm still looking at the skis and didn't stand straight enough:!: Hard to break some bad habits. But I did manage about 3 revolutions without stopping (completely). I tended to get around to 270 with the aid of leading with the shoulder and at that point it helped to lift the uphill ski off the snow to continue the revolution. Before utilizing the shoulder lead, 180 was the maximum normal distance of the "revolution". With more practice I can see this happening. :thumbup: Thanks for your help. :D Mike :wink:

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souldrive — GMT

yo, i also made an attempt friday night at castleford xscape but like mike i also struggled with the leg straight thing, i did manage to nail it once but i will keep practicing!!

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Mike from NS — GMT

souldrive - good stuff :!::thumbup: Yes - we must practice, then practice some more :!: When we all gather at Jan's place some day - he'll be proud of us :!: Are you going to make another spinning video Jan :?: Mike :wink:

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souldrive — GMT

hey jan, mike and whoever else is reading, I have finally sussed spinning on the skis!! I just got back from tamworth snowdome and not only can i spin on the skis i did it 3 times in immediate succession!! Rock and Roll!! Thanks jan and hope you suss it too mike!!

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Paul McD — GMT

Hi, Lean forward, turn 180 deg then LEAN BACK to complete the turn. Keep your skis parallel. This really does take some practice. To help you get round at first use a pole to push you round once you're half way. Obviously find a gentle slope.The easiest way to learn is on blades.

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tachedub2 — GMT

I was unable to view the video, blocked out at work. I have been skiing backwards and spinning turns for years, even on old straight skis. The secret for me lies in flat skis and one of the basics of skiing. Always keep your weight comitted downhill. As you proceed through the rotation re-adjust your center so you are still comitting your weight downhill throughout the turn. Only practice on well groomed slopes. Al

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PeakTimes — GMT

I classify myself as being a bit of an old dog with my 50th due in April. I like to have fun and spend time when I can either off piste, jumping and spinning. The spinning is fairly easy as long as previously mentioned you have the base flat to the snow to avoid catching edges. I find that gently rocking backwards and then forwards over the tips/tails of the ski makes the spin faster. I use Rossignol Bandit B2's (the longest in the range) and the length doesn't seem to make the spin harder. My only problem is that after 5 fast spins i have lost my head - its almost better than 5 pints.

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Admin — GMT

souldrive wrote:

I just got back from tamworth snowdome

Spinning in the dome? Cool or what? Is it on youtube yet? 8)

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souldrive — GMT

indeed very cool! will get some video "axion" next time I go and will upload to the tube. The dome is pretty quiet after 9 so plenty of space to practice. Unfortunately the next time I ski will be in Les Carroz but I have to wait 12 days to do it!!

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ldavies — GMT

wa-hey!! i can do that! i didn't have a clue what you people were on about but then i watched the video. i can't explain what i do, but yes, i spin! i was taught to do it on the mittermoos in niederau years ago wearing blades, holding hands in pairs and in a group of about 5 or 6 people (best fun ever!) and then managed to do it on skis. L.

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ldavies — GMT

to jan/stenmark, i've just looked at your gallery of pics. they ARE stunning, quite, quite beautiful. have only passed the Auhof en route to rudi's at the top. i am literally sitting at my computer salivating at niederau, especailly the one 'twinkle twinkle little village' or words to that effect. am trying to persuade friends to re - book for niederau next season, but they want to go to kitbuhel for new year. sigh. will email them the link to your site. my cavalier king charles would love it there ...L.

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Mike from NS — GMT

Thanks for the feedback on tips to get the spinning working. The snow was too thick to give it a dedicated try yesterday; but with all the methods on how to do this and do it well, I'm sure with practice it will come. I think one reason we slightly older creatures like to take any opportunity to jump or be "launched" into the air; and try spinning -- is to maintain our youthful outlook. :roll: After all - there is no law stating that only the kids can have fun on the snow :!: Congratulations souldrive :thumbup: :thumbup: So being a new spinner what part of the insrtuctions that were offered do you think were the most valuable? Mike :wink:

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souldrive — GMT

Straight legs from jan was the crucial bit of info, the aspect i focussed on most anyway. Keeping weight downhill too! if you put half hour solid into it you'll get it. It's not really that difficult, when you know how. ) Cheers!

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Mike from NS — GMT

Thanks souldrive, We have only 4 more weekends in our Nova Scotia season so I had better get that half hour the next time out and get this working. Last week I almost had it working but didn't spend the time to nail it. Congratulations once more ... you have added a new life style skill to your skiing this year :!: Mike :-)

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souldrive — GMT

HELLO MIKE AND CO, HAVING GOT BACK FROM MY HOL I NOW HAVE SOME FOOTAGE FOR YA!! AND FOR ANY WHO ARE NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH GOOD SOLID ROCK MUSIC, THIS SHOULD HELP YOU OUT!! > Sorry bout the caps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dloJka1BA8k

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Mike from NS — GMT

Souldrive, The Italians may say MACEECH!!! ( forgive my spelling ) But I understand that means COOL!!!) Your song "Sunshine", Souldrive is right out there with the best ... it has the sound of confidence and determination! :thumbup: :thumbup: Hayley made a great attempt but I think the battery gave out in the end for the focus control :wink: I think Jan should his comments on your style and form BREZ. There were lots of revolutions but I couldn't see from where the continual driving force was coming. My spinning has a long long way to go in comparison :cry: You have done well :!: Thanks for the video. Mike :shock:

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souldrive — GMT

nice one thank you kindly!! plenty more where that came from, just need to get some more recording done.

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swal — GMT

Spinning is easy but I have Blades so it's kinda cheating. Nice video tho I'll try and get something up next week when I back from my holiday :D

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caron-a — GMT

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: souldrive. you look like you're on ice skates on the second one caron

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souldrive — GMT

you wouldn't say that if you saw me on ice skates! lol last time i went i kept thining i was gonna fall over at some point and hurt myself so i gave up!! :oops: Thanks anyway Caron-A