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Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:15:17 GMT

Rented a pair of skis this weekend and the store had set up the bindings to loose for me... I'll remember now to check the setting myself

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:10:25 GMT

Have had that happen! Do you know what your DIN setting should be? (Mine is 7), and did you ask the techie what he had set it to?

I know the DIN settings for all my family and regular ski friends.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:35:58 GMT

They typically ask in rental shops which DIN you use and might even had to sign the paper when renting that settings on skis are ones that you requested. I made a mistake of asking to lower my DIN to 5 because for some reason I thought it would be better with new skis. Well, I released at the worst possible moment and consider myself lucky to be able to self-arrest soon enough as it was very steep and bumpy. Back to 6. There is a DIN settings calculator that you can find online. And if you ski aggressively and ski steep terrain you should really worry more about your bindings releasing as you ski in no-fall zone than your skis staying on if you fall.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:09:17 GMT

Verbier ,,,and all skiers,

By all means check the DIN value before getting on snow,,,but also have technician check the REAR tension setting !

You can have the correct DIN setting,,,but if that rear tension pressure is not set correctly,,,,,off you go into the woods !

How is this done ?

On all bindings you can move rear unit via a screw, a rail or a level ! This is done to create enough pressure on the heel to push ski boot forward on front toe piece!

Too low pressure, boots will come off at smallest pressure
Too much pressure,,,boots will never come off!

On rental ( hire) skis there is a long track in the back and often when technician is in a hurry,,this unit is NOT placed correctly !

For skiers who want to check their own units see manuals or ask shop to tell you how to,,,

There are several indications.

On some the screw head must be flush to housing
On some there is a range ( with lines) on base with a triangle as indicator!
On some there is a window on side with a white line

For a safe ski day check this !
Happy Summer every one!!!

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:12:56 GMT

On hire skis with a hire rail - this makes the ski suitable for a wider range of boot sizes ....

It is the boot length in millimetres than is the important factor.
Worth knowing your boot length - assuming own boots/hire skis - and then just look at the lines to make sure this corresponds with your boot length.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:57:09 GMT

That did make me chuckle, not great at the old self arrest . I don't think rental shops will go above 7 these days even if you were to request. They might give you screw driver to adjust yourself though.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:13:52 GMT

Only 7? I am fairly lightweight and I don't want to ski on less than 6. I would imagine for a guy 7 would be not much at all. I do have the shop check rear pressure every time I get new boots/skis/bindings.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:27:55 GMT

I'm surprised, VSB, that the shop would ask you for your DIN setting. The process is they enter your height, weight,age,and ability into the computer, and it gives the DN setting. That is the point I ask them, and I accept 7.0 to 7.5.

Like you,I once deliberately set a low DIN setting, thinking a) I never fall, b) I therefore would be protecting my knee. Then I jumped onto a steep off piste, and, errm, walked out of my ski. The skibrakes didn't work in powder, and I followed the track hip-hoppy for half a kilometer, eventually finding about three inches of tail sticking out of the snow.
Doh!

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:50:23 GMT

They do, but I also use the same shop all the time and sometimes they just ask me which one I use. It's the same number anyway I had a "preference" for the lower DIN for the same reason to "protect the knee". I was giving "cautious" for the type until at some poing last year I was told that I was not and should be more concerned about skiing out of a ski in some situations - which I had a chance to experience this year.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:09:27 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:I'm surprised, VSB, that the shop would ask you for your DIN setting. The process is they enter your height, weight,age,and ability into the computer, and it gives the DN setting. That is the point I ask them, and I accept 7.0 to 7.5.

Like you,I once deliberately set a low DIN setting, thinking a) I never fall, b) I therefore would be protecting my knee. Then I jumped onto a steep off piste, and, errm, walked out of my ski. The skibrakes didn't work in powder, and I followed the track hip-hoppy for half a kilometer, eventually finding about three inches of tail sticking out of the snow.
Doh!

I checked now my own skis and they are set to 9,5. I also bought a pair of skis just like the I rented with the shop set those to 9.5 too after getting my weight och checking how I ride so I'm not surprised that the rentals released when i was skiing.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:38:50 GMT

I was told to slacken mine off when not in use i.e. when stored over the summer. Does anyone else do this?

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:24:07 GMT

When we were being fitted up with our rented skis in the chalet in Tignes Les Boisses, they set my DIN at 7.0, and I was a bit worried about this because I've never been on such a high setting. I remembered reading that age comes into it as well, and I thought maybe it should be lower because of this. So the guy lowered it a bit for me.

And then, when we were ski-ing that first morning, I was quite happily going along at a reasonable speed, and one of my skis came off

It was a real shock because my boot just slid out of the binding - it didn't unclip - and I was suddenly ski-ing on one leg! Luckily I was on an easy piste so after I'd picked myself up off the snow I managed to retrieve my ski and carry on. And when we went back to the chalet for lunch I told them about it and the poor guy had to put the setting back up again.

I skied the rest of the 2 1/2 days on that setting and everything was fine. I fell over lots of times (mainly in the powder) and the binding undid as it's supposed to, but I didn't slide out of my ski again.

Maybe I should listen to the technician next time and keep my mouth shut

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:09:39 GMT

AllyG wrote:When we were being fitted up with our rented skis in the chalet in Tignes Les Boisses, they set my DIN at 7.0, and I was a bit worried about this because I've never been on such a high setting. I remembered reading that age comes into it as well, and I thought maybe it should be lower because of this. So the guy lowered it a bit for me.

And then, when we were ski-ing that first morning, I was quite happily going along at a reasonable speed, and one of my skis came off

It was a real shock because my boot just slid out of the binding - it didn't unclip - and I was suddenly ski-ing on one leg! Luckily I was on an easy piste so after I'd picked myself up off the snow I managed to retrieve my ski and carry on. And when we went back to the chalet for lunch I told them about it and the poor guy had to put the setting back up again.

I skied the rest of the 2 1/2 days on that setting and everything was fine. I fell over lots of times (mainly in the powder) and the binding undid as it's supposed to, but I didn't slide out of my ski again.

Maybe I should listen to the technician next time and keep my mouth shut

For someone of your size and experience Ally, seven is quite a high setting. Skis don't normally come off without a substantial blow from a rut. I would suspect that something else was involved, like the forward pressure was set too low, or there was some snow packed in somewhere.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:59:48 GMT

Mine are usually on a 6 or just under and I find they stay on under quite a lot of pressure but (fortunately) did come off when I had a fall which could have caused an injury if they hadn't.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:26:46 GMT

mackar wrote: I checked now my own skis and they are set to 9,5. I also bought a pair of skis just like the I rented with the shop set those to 9.5 too after getting my weight och checking how I ride so I'm not surprised that the rentals released when i was skiing.

Mackar, what bindings are on your skis? Many manufacturers put a binding setting chart up on the web. You can fill in the main parameters and get an on reading, as a check.

9.5 is a racers setting. A 6in nail driven through the boot and the ski might provide an easier release!

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:28:42 GMT

About 7.5 for me, seems to work out ok for me as I'm slim

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:32:31 GMT

wrong thread

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:36:12 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:About 7.5 for me, seems to work out ok for me as I'm slim

What about the reduction for age, Ian?

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:40:16 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:About 7.5 for me, seems to work out ok for me as I'm slim

What about the reduction for age, Ian?

When I get old Dave my legs will break anyway, so I'll just roll down the piste and tape them back on with some of that gaffer tape

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:01:17 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Dave Mac wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:About 7.5 for me, seems to work out ok for me as I'm slim

What about the reduction for age, Ian?

When I get old Dave my legs will break anyway, so I'll just roll down the piste and tape them back on with some of that gaffer tape

Haha!

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:13:23 GMT

My friend has his bindings set at 11. But he's what we call a "better skier on a mountain" and will jump off anything there is in sight.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:17:04 GMT

Trencher wrote:For someone of your size and experience Ally, seven is quite a high setting. Skis don't normally come off without a substantial blow from a rut. I would suspect that something else was involved, like the forward pressure was set too low, or there was some snow packed in somewhere.

Thanks Trencher

I'm pretty sure I didn't whack the ski in a rut or anything. They'd pisted it and it was nice and smooth, which is why I was going reasonably fast.

And there wasn't any snow stuck in the binding or on my boot - I know because the snow was all hard and icy and I'd very carefully checked my bindings and boots.

Does the type of ski make any difference? They were Rossignol Zenith Z76, 170's - mens skis again, I know, I'm getting used to it now

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:27:01 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:About 7.5 for me, seems to work out ok for me as I'm slim

Oh yes Ian you're a fine figure of two men

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:52:40 GMT

There is no need to slacken the bindings of for storage. Tyrolia (the largest manufacturer) recommends that you close the bindings for long term storage:

The best sources of information on binding settings etc. are the manufacturer's technical manuals, see pages 33-37 http://store.ornellosport.com/ManualeAttacchiRossi1011.pdf

AllyG, assuming you classify yourself as a level 2 skier, a DIN setting of 7 would indicate that you weigh 79-94kg, are between 5' 11" and 6' 4" tall and ski in a boot with a sole length of 311-330mm. If that's the case I wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night!

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:08:08 GMT

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AllyG, assuming you classify yourself as a level 2 skier, a DIN setting of 7 would indicate that you weigh 79-94kg, are between 5' 11" and 6' 4" tall and ski in a boot with a sole length of 311-330mm. If that's the case I wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night!

Crikey you've got me worried now

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:11:25 GMT

Swingbeep - I tried using this DIN calculator:

http://www.dinsetting.com/

And concluded that it's pretty impossible trying to pick the right DIN setting.

If I class myself as a class 2 skier, which is an 'average/moderate' skier then apparently I should have a DIN of 6.0

However, if I class myself as a class 3 'aggressive, higher speed skier' then I should have a DIN of 7.0.

I mean - how stupid is that? If I'm in the 3 valleys I'm faster and more aggressive then the average skier, but if I'm in Tignes I'm slower and less aggressive than the average skier.

And - I entered height of 5'10'' weight of 67-78Kg and whatever a size 8 shoe was (sorry forgotten the answer).

Maybe I went wrong somewhere?

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Wed, 2 May 2012 17:55:09 GMT

The calculator worked quite well for me

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Wed, 2 May 2012 22:46:58 GMT

mackar wrote:The calculator worked quite well for me

In what way, Mackar?

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Thu, 3 May 2012 06:45:28 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:

mackar wrote:The calculator worked quite well for me

In what way, Mackar?

I got the same result from the calculator as my ski shop has set mine bindings to after checking my weight and asking me how I ski.

Re:Don't forget to check the binding settings

Thu, 3 May 2012 10:54:43 GMT

Mine worked out to six ..... but seven seems to suit me