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Aged 12 - 51 and ski? Please help!

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:43:52 GMT

If you are aged 12-51 and ski, please could you spare just 10 minutes to answer my dissertation questionnaire...it's regarding skiers behavioural adaptations to climate change. COMPLETELY confidential. Would be a massive help, thank you

http://kwiksurveys.com?u=ctuffindissertation

Re:Aged 12 - 51 and ski? Please help!

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:55:15 GMT

eh? Isnt this the same as the other?

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Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:05:40 GMT

But tuff opened up the age range - sensible to post with the new age range in the title.

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Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:17:33 GMT

hmmmmmm

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:39:26 GMT

You do not stop skiing at 51 :evil:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:22:22 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:You do not stop skiing at 51 :evil:

Very True

But your opinion no longer matters after 51 ;)

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:08:16 GMT

Iceman wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:You do not stop skiing at 51 :evil:

Very True

But your opinion no longer matters after 51 ;)

:( :( :(

Re:Aged 12 - 51 and ski? Please help!

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:16:16 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Iceman wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:You do not stop skiing at 51 :evil:

Very True

But your opinion no longer matters after 51 ;)

:( :( :(

Ah well ....

Anyone got a shotgun?
:cry:

Re:Aged 12 - 51 and ski? Please help!

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:19:24 GMT

Took you a while to realise ;)

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:24:41 GMT

Iceman wrote:Took you a while to realise ;)

Hope I am still on here when/if you get that far Icy :roll:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:27:42 GMT

13 years to go :mrgreen: :thumbup:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:14:01 GMT

OldAndy wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Iceman wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:You do not stop skiing at 51 :evil:

Very True

But your opinion no longer matters after 51 ;)

:( :( :(

Ah well ....

Anyone got a shotgun?
:cry:

Sorry!!! It's to do with generation y and generation x behavioural adaptations...you can answer and just tick the older age group, your perceptions will still count :) thank you

25 more to go then i will stop nagging!!!!! Thank youuuuuu

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:25:09 GMT

Wickers needs an "Almost Geriatric" category, or he'll keep on about it :D

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:29:36 GMT

bandit wrote:Wickers needs an "Almost Geriatric" category, or he'll keep on about it :D

Absolutely !!!
Mind you why the "almost"???

He is much older than I am :mrgreen:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:31:52 GMT

tuff wrote:
Sorry!!! It's to do with generation y and generation x behavioural adaptations...you can answer and just tick the older age group, your perceptions will still count :) thank you

25 more to go then i will stop nagging!!!!! Thank youuuuuu

Fully understand your need for a clear sampling group Tuff.

But us boring, obsessive, compulsive skiers like nothing better than anything at all to wibble on about :mrgreen:

Glad this is all going well for you :thumbup:

Even if Wickers and I are in generation Z :cry:

Re:Aged 12 - 51 and ski? Please help!

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:39:57 GMT

Social Media - answer to all your troubles ;)

Ready for the thousands of responses now :roll:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:10:48 GMT

bandit wrote:Wickers needs an "Almost Geriatric" category, or he'll keep on about it :D

Old Fart category sounds about right :D

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:15:35 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Wickers needs an "Almost Geriatric" category, or he'll keep on about it :D

Old Fart category sounds about right :D

Trouble is, there are so many of us, it would skew the survey :shock:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:38:52 GMT

bandit wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

bandit wrote:Wickers needs an "Almost Geriatric" category, or he'll keep on about it :D

Old Fart category sounds about right :D

Trouble is, there are so many of us, it would skew the survey :shock:

But in a positive way :shock:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:46:29 GMT

But ....
The core of Tuff's survey seems to be about global warming and any perception on impact on changing skiing patterns.

So ...
We will all be on those never ending powder fields in the sky linking perfect turns and whooping with joy before any impact is seen and needs to be allowed for in holday decisions.
:cry:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:23:50 GMT

OldAndy wrote:But ....
The core of Tuff's survey seems to be about global warming and any perception on impact on changing skiing patterns.

Are we not already there?

Now taking the thread completely off topic -

Isn't the greatest threat to ski holiday prices of fuel.

Five years ago I could jump on an aircraft for GBP10 and go away for a weekend. Now I work all year and look for last minute deals to afford my three or four weeks on the slopes.

The way things are going holidays will only be available to the very well off again. The Victorians could at least afford to go to Blackpool on a train, but the prices of train fairs these days will probably mean that will not be possible.

Back on topic

Do 12 year olds get to decide where they go on holiday? I use to get asked but my opinion never counted

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:35:24 GMT

FallingDown wrote:

OldAndy wrote:But ....
The core of Tuff's survey seems to be about global warming and any perception on impact on changing skiing patterns.

Are we not already there?

Now taking the thread completely off topic -

Isn't the greatest threat to ski holiday prices of fuel.

Five years ago I could jump on an aircraft for GBP10 and go away for a weekend. Now I work all year and look for last minute deals to afford my three or four weeks on the slopes.

The way things are going holidays will only be available to the very well off again. The Victorians could at least afford to go to Blackpool on a train, but the prices of train fairs these days will probably mean that will not be possible.

*** dons flameproof suit ***

Holidays and flights got far too cheap in the mid 90's and then into the Noughties.

I've just booked flights to Geneva for a family of 4 and I think GBP80 each (incl baggage) is incredibly good value.

I remember saving up for a return flight to Los Angeles in 1988 - pretty sure I paid around GBP325 which I thought was decent value (and I was a University student at the time) . Skyscanner is showing return flights to LA today at GBP386. Therefore, despite recent rises, flights are still very very good value for money.

Unfortunately everyone has got used to too much stuff, whether that constitutes 2 holidays a year, a big telly, an ipad, a coffee a day at Starbucks etc etc.

** takes off suit **

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:31:45 GMT

Barney is totally right

HOWEVER.....falling down....3 or 4 WEEKS on the slopes is just not fair :(

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:55:04 GMT

Iceman wrote:Barney is totally right

HOWEVER.....falling down....3 or 4 WEEKS on the slopes is just not fair :(

What if those 3 or 4 weeks were your entire holiday for the year? Personally, I do not enjoy going on Summer holidays. With the possible exception of a sailing trip, I would prefer to Ski as much as possible instead. So if I was lucky enough to get 4 weeks on the slopes, why is that any different to 2 weeks skiing and 2 weeks sunning on a beach somewhere?

Edit, Icy is on his mobile again, queuing for petrol no doubt :twisted:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:03:14 GMT

bedrock barney wrote:
Holidays and flights got far too cheap in the mid 90's and then into the Noughties.

I've just booked flights to Geneva for a family of 4 and I think GBP80 each (incl baggage) is incredibly good value.

How can holidays and flights be too cheap

Iceman wrote:Barney is totally right

HOWEVER.....falling down....3 or 4 WEEKS on the slopes is just not fair :(

Iceman, I do not drink alcohol, I have an old car that I hardly use (the car uses 25mpg, I can not afford too) and I do two jobs, well not all the time, but when I can

But I get a summer holiday too!!! My parents live in Portugal and although they live 30 minutes from the beach they have a fab natural pool that is great for skinny dipping in on hot summer days.

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:31:07 GMT

FallingDown wrote:

bedrock barney wrote:
Holidays and flights got far too cheap in the mid 90's and then into the Noughties.

I've just booked flights to Geneva for a family of 4 and I think GBP80 each (incl baggage) is incredibly good value.

How can holidays and flights be too cheap

It's too late of course to put right but aviation fuel should have been taxed in the same way that other forms of transport are. It creates inequality in the market place and unrealistic expectations for the general populace. For example, no one can convince me that a flight to Dublin for a one night stag do is acceptable. If it costs say GBP150 pp then fair enough, but not GBP30. And I mean acceptable in terms of sustainability in the long term. Planes need kerosene and kerosene derives from crude oil which is a finite resource. Crude oil costs can only go one way. There will ultimately be a "correction" and people's aspirations will have to drop. Unfortunately the transition will be very painful.

That's enough deep thinking. Now where's that bottle of New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, flown in cheaply on my behalf. :mrgreen:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:46:08 GMT

B.Barney:

Wondering if you donned the flameproof suit in defense against GLOBAL WARNING, or out of fear of being flamed for saying that "holidays and flights got far too cheap" ?!

---If the latter, then don your flameproof suit back on for a bit, cause I just can not resist the temptation to blow off some steam and flames about this: I wish I could agree with you(!), but at least in my case (living in the US), to go for a one full week ski vacation in a resort of my liking (European Alps, or NW/US or NW/Canada) brings me to a cost of --at the VERY LEAST-- $2500 (~GBP1600), out of which AT LEAST $1000 is the flight (Boston to Geneva or Muenchen)...

So, don't know about others, but for me $2500 is not exactly an amount I can just drop out of my pocket without really feeling its loss! Consequently, I'd be happy even w/ just one such trib per year (although tw trips would be soooooh much better ;)) ... now if the flights would cost me just arounf GBP80 (as you quoted your newly booked Geneva fare), then that would be another story: Maybe in such case I would consider to regularly taking 2-3 ski trips per year (which BTW: means the entire vacation-time for most people in the US - I consider myself lucky to get 4wks!).

And I agree with FallingDown: I find it weird to collect answers for this particular survey's questions from 12yr olds (... would you really expect any 12yr old to have a firmly formed opinion about chosing between NZ, Canada, or some othe place in case the snow disappeared from Europe? ... and saying that, it just occured to me that the survey did not list SouthAmerica as a choice.. I'm curios why, because I heard they had decent skiing down there)

-Cat

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:59:04 GMT

Nah...nothing to do with global warming. I'm much more concerned about peak oil but that's best debated on other forum sites not an enjoyable skiing site.

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:28:56 GMT

bedrock barney wrote:Nah...nothing to do with global warming. I'm much more concerned about peak oil but that's best debated on other forum sites not an enjoyable skiing site.

To me global warming is a load of tosh.
Why are we so arrogant as a species to believe that in the short period of time we have been keeping weather records (must be only a few hundred years) we have gotten it all figured out?

Who is to say a few degrees here and there isn't a normal or random blip in millions of years of the earths weather patterns?

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:33:20 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:

Who is to say a few degrees here and there isn't a normal or random blip in millions of years of the earths weather patterns?

Snapzzz, I am inclined to agree that we can be incredibly arrogant as a race, and I think the approach to "global warming" at the moment is wrong, but I should point out that we do not need to have kept weather records ourselves. The planet has done it for us, and by drilling through the ice at the polar regions, or by taking soil and rock samples from other areas, we have a pretty good record of the weather and climate over the past several millennia.

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:46:44 GMT

Far Queue wrote:

Snapzzz wrote:

Who is to say a few degrees here and there isn't a normal or random blip in millions of years of the earths weather patterns?

Snapzzz, I am inclined to agree that we can be incredibly arrogant as a race, and I think the approach to "global warming" at the moment is wrong, but I should point out that we do not need to have kept weather records ourselves. The planet has done it for us, and by drilling through the ice at the polar regions, or by taking soil and rock samples from other areas, we have a pretty good record of the weather and climate over the past several millennia.

Yes, you are quite right in that respect but is uspect that in the 4.5 billion years the earth has been in existence even those records are small fry.
Im no scientist but i am in the camp that believes the earth can adapt and evolve and life will also evolve to the new environment.

As long as the tanker drivers do not strike.

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:00:59 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:

Im no scientist but i am in the camp that believes the earth can adapt and evolve and life will also evolve to the new environment.

As long as the tanker drivers do not strike.

I fully agree with that statement Snapzzz, but what I doubt, is that humans (and tanker drivers) can be counted among the life that will evolve.

I have these strange pictures in my mind of a visitor to the planet in a million years time, being met by giant cockroaches, all having fun on skis on a planet almost completely covered in ice :shock:

Oops, jus realised this is not the general wibble thread :oops:

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:03:50 GMT

Far Queue wrote:

Snapzzz wrote:

Im no scientist but i am in the camp that believes the earth can adapt and evolve and life will also evolve to the new environment.

As long as the tanker drivers do not strike.

I fully agree with that statement Snapzzz, but what I doubt, is that humans (and tanker drivers) can be counted among the life that will evolve.

I have these strange pictures in my mind of a visitor to the planet in a million years time, being met by giant cockroaches, all having fun on skis on a planet almost completely covered in ice :shock:

Oops, jus realised this is not the general wibble thread :oops:

I remember something my brother said to me before he died a few years ago.
He said, "Jon. humans are the only species of life on earth that do not learn from their mistakes".......how right he was.

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Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:05:34 GMT

Far Queue wrote:

Oops, jus realised this is not the general wibble thread :oops:

But perhaps relevent :D

Whilst the questionnaire gives some empirical data that can be worked through the comments may prove useful as part of tuff's thesis.

You could become famous as part of some research in the random comments section :thumbup: