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Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:26:35 GMT

So we are charging down a long red last week, and looking to make it over to a certain sector by a certain time. Best route is to stop half way down, take a short (and I mean short, 100m max) drag up to mid station of a gondola.
I stop and wait for the 3 others to arrive, all agree its the shortest route except my mate who goes nuts, throws his toys out, and says he'd rather ski the left hand side of La Sarenne again (where he got stuck and had a proper paddy) than take this drag.

I had no idea anyone could be so anti drag lifts.

I informed him the alternative is to ski to the bottom, a further few miles, and take the full length gondola back up, wasting approx half an hour. He was delighted, despite his quads buring, to continue down and avoid the drag.

Over my dead body, were words he used to describe how he felt about drag lifts. I am talking about buttons not T Bars. I think a previous experience may be haunting him. He's happy to have a go at a black, but definitely no to a drag lift.

Does anyone else have a similar problem with these?

Personally, I quite like them....gets you involved and feels like youre skiing. IN addition, the drag up the Signal mountain in ADH went twice as fast as the chair...... :mrgreen:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:30:43 GMT

Odd it must be an experience thing, never met anyone frightened of buttons :shock:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:35:43 GMT

Nope, they don't bother me at all - prefer chairs where I can, of course, but I wouldn't take a different route to avoid a button or drag lift. Even my snowboarding husband is pretty good about using them

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:42:40 GMT

Years ago, probably in 1981, in Kitzbuhel, I learnt to really love drags...

....these new fangled snowboards were appearing everywhere and it seemed the approved way for boarders to ride T-bars was to fasten themselves to single skiers, by grabbing them around the chest or shoulders.

I was fortunate enough that a truly, truly lovely blonde, who spoke excellent English, attached herself to me for three successive t-bar rides on the way over to Pass Thurn. Gentlemanly convention means I cannot reveal what happened later...... :mrgreen:

It appears this initmate way of getting up a t-bar has passed out of common usage....sadly.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:49:31 GMT

I have to be honest and state that personally I don't like drag lifts. I will try to avoid them, but not to the point of "no way", and will use them if it means there is no option, or like Tony, to avoid a delay.

I think this goes back to when I first learnt to ski in the 70's, and the drag lifts would frequently just stop, at which point you would start to slide back down the groves, with the inevitable result of half the class falling over. Chaos then ensued and we often had to tramp quite a way to get to somewhere suitable for a beginner to ski down and start again.

I was always happiest when the class went up routes with bucket lifts. I do not recall that we even had a chair lift in the resort at the time.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:50:14 GMT

Always found it much easier to light a cigarette on a chair than on a drag !

Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:50:46 GMT

Tony_H wrote:S
I stop and wait for the 3 others to arrive

Lol, they wouldn't have been waiting for you would they :thumbup:

Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:27:05 GMT

mjjw69 wrote:

Lol, they wouldn't have been waiting for you would they :thumbup:

That wasn't the point 8)
But no, not when I am always sent out to lead.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:43:56 GMT

Merryski wrote:Always found it much easier to light a cigarette on a chair than on a drag !

Having a drag on a drag :shock:

I actually quite like drags and was disappointed that whuilst in the 3V I only went on one that was advertised as "tres dificile" - It was just long.

I like drag lifts as they allow me to look around and enjoy the scenery and the weather. Admit, if it is blizzard I will take the gondala any day!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:50:14 GMT

The Park Rats in Grimentz ride up the Draglifts backwards and sideways, doing 360's too. Damn their youth and bendy joints )

Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:12:28 GMT

Tony_H wrote:IN addition, the drag up the Signal mountain in ADH went twice as fast as the chair...... :mrgreen:

I took that drag nearly every time i did the Signal, you are right it was very quick as apposed to that slooooow old chair.
I only chose the chair when wanted to faff about in my bag and stuff.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:24:32 GMT

Don't mind drags, well buttons not the dreaded t-bar. Seem to remember the link from courchevel 1650 to 1850 was a long steep icy drag lined with tree stumps. Try Fernie. Cedar bowl has fantastic open glade skiing and usually deep powder on the far side BUT the only way out is a drag or a very long walk

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:12:24 GMT

andandlor wrote:Seem to remember the link from courchevel 1650 to 1850 was a long steep icy drag lined with tree stumps.

Showing your age there!!
Been swapped for a decent chair for a good few years now but I remember them.
A really dodgy button, all soerts of bumps and rubbish especially when the snow was poor.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:26:10 GMT

Sauze used to have the longest drag in the universe when you skied back over from Sestriere. I dread to think how long it was.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:52:09 GMT

Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:01:02 GMT

I'm happy to get up the mountain any way necessary. Button lifts give you a sense of peace and tranquiliy for a few minutes, no-one to talk to, just take in the view.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:02:28 GMT

Iceman wrote:Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

Moslty still in France I think. Horrible on a board, fine on skis :)

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:09:18 GMT

NellyPS wrote:

Iceman wrote:Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

Moslty still in France I think. Horrible on a board, fine on skis :)

Sorry Nell but I think you have that wrong .... I have skied France, Italy, Switzerland and have never found one, the only place I have not skied is Austria the home of the T Bar :shock:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:35:11 GMT

We have them in Switzerland, there are lots in Val d'Anniviers :D

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:50:28 GMT

Don't mind them at all. I remember going on some in champoussin Switzerland and there pretty steep in parts... But there all over and a way to still enjoy skiing where they maybe can't put a chair for whatever reason....

Having read your post though, myself and a few mates (2 boarders) went to 3 valleys last yr for a cheap week and 1 of the boarders hated the drags. Same situation as yourself. The button drag up the side of the park in VT was simply a way of getting up high to enable us to get where we needed quicker.... It became embarrassing after the lad could not get on the lift at all. Each time he some how managed to fall.... He finally managed it but it was a long wait.....

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:12:47 GMT

They are the pure evil of lifts (For boarders). Nothing worse then boarding down a run legs burning to get to the bottom and have to stand in an awkward position with excess pressure on your front foot for the next 5-10 mins. Don't get me wrong I will use them but try to avoid if I can.

Worst part is when your park lapping 9 times out of 10 it's a drag to get you back to the top of the park ?

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:21:19 GMT

TowerBridge Andy wrote:They are the pure evil of lifts (For boarders). Nothing worse then boarding down a run legs burning to get to the bottom and have to stand in an awkward position with excess pressure on your front foot for the next 5-10 mins. Don't get me wrong I will use them but try to avoid if I can.

Worst part is when your park lapping 9 times out of 10 it's a drag to get you back to the top of the park ?

I think I'm beginning to like them :wink:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:00:20 GMT

TowerBridge Andy wrote:They are the pure evil of lifts (For boarders). Nothing worse then boarding down a run legs burning to get to the bottom and have to stand in an awkward position with excess pressure on your front foot for the next 5-10 mins. Don't get me wrong I will use them but try to avoid if I can.

Worst part is when your park lapping 9 times out of 10 it's a drag to get you back to the top of the park ?

Pay attention to the title of the thread please!!

I was talking about for skiers, not boarders.

Now that we have that evil removed, back on track....

.....oh yes. T Bars.

I have to say the only place I have found them has been Austria. There used to be a one on the Ahorn in Mayrhofen but its been replaced with a lovely automatic 8 man chair.

There was also a very nasty one in Niederau which sent Mrs H flying. Very aggressive thing it was. Threw her a good 20 feet. I think thats maybe what could have contributed to my view of the place :wink:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:08:16 GMT

At Plagne 1800, there's a button lift that has the most ferocious lift off. Awful when you're unwary, but actually quite a laugh when you know it's coming as you can have some fun doing a Harrier take-off impression!

Lots of T-bars still in Austria and Swisserland (glacier at Engelberg, Arosa and in the Jungfrau also).

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:30:51 GMT

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:39:21 GMT

T Bars are in St Moritz

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:40:47 GMT

Worst drag I have been on was Serre Chevalier after the Frejus Chair (I think). Tony will confirm.

Did a 10 foot jump in the air as it got hold of me and made me talk funny for an hour or so.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:35:53 GMT

T-bars used to be quite common on the glaciers in France but rare on normal slopes. Bloody uncomfortable things. :shock:

I do like drags though, and very nearly perfected falling asleep on them when doing my seasons way back! They're also a great bad weather option when you'd freeze on a chair. Add it that boarders tend to hate them......!! :lol:

There used to be a drag that you could get on a run down from the Grande Motte to get over to Val D'Isere that would lift you some way in the air. Flaine has a couple of drags that do the same.
Good fun when you know it's coming and try to see how far you can bunny hop for! :mrgreen:

Tony - I think you may need to choose your skiing partners with more care if you ski with people afraid of a little button lift!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:39:52 GMT

TowerBridge Andy wrote:

Pay attention to the title of the thread please!!

I was talking about for skiers, not boarders.

Tony apologies, my mistake.

I did read the title of the thread but thought I would offer my opinion from a snowboarders point of view. I will make sure to keep my opinions to myself from now on, especially when clearly stated that comments from a certain genre are only required.
Andy...i was only being sarcy mate. Dont take it so seriously. However I;d asked skiers to comment as I know boarders generally try to avoid drags and t bars anyway and knew what the response would be from boarders.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:41:16 GMT

Dorset Boy wrote:

Tony - I think you may need to choose your skiing partners with more care if you ski with people afraid of a little button lift!

Indeed. However I went with a couple, an old mate from school. We had been chatting for a year or so about making a trip together, discussing each others ability. You never know until you ski with someone how they get on. Then guy was a competent enough skier, strong and able, but he just hated drags!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:41:44 GMT

Stewart Dowling wrote:T Bars are in St Moritz

Interesting. I believe I was with you on that trip, and I never saw one. Were you playing on the bunny slopes again???? )

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:43:48 GMT

Stewart Dowling wrote:Worst drag I have been on was Serre Chevalier after the Frejus Chair (I think). Tony will confirm.

Did a 10 foot jump in the air as it got hold of me and made me talk funny for an hour or so.

There are 2 drags at the top of the Frejus lift; Cretes and Barres. Both have been known to have jumpy starts. You get accustomed to them after a while, but we watched many (experienced) skiers come off on these lifts from the nearby cafe.

You always talk funny, Stewart )

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:00:59 GMT

There used to be a really evil drag lift on the Chalvet area in Montgenevre - is it still there?

I have never been so relieved to reach the top of a drag, having clung on for all I was worth with a sheer drop with no netting or anything to my left and a wall of snow to my right.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 17:34:00 GMT

Did a T-Bar last week on the glacier in VDI - the rep wanted to do it to gain maximum edge of map on one side before heading all the way to Tignes les Brev on the other

I'm not a fan of any sort of drag but wouldnt waste 30 mins to go round one

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:34:34 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

NellyPS wrote:

Iceman wrote:Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

Moslty still in France I think. Horrible on a board, fine on skis :)

Sorry Nell but I think you have that wrong .... I have skied France, Italy, Switzerland and have never found one, the only place I have not skied is Austria the home of the T Bar :shock:

I meant Austria - so easy to get them mixed up 8)

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:38:28 GMT

Worst one was from La Plagne (en Vanoise) over to La Belle Plagne many years ago - probably different now. The longest cross country button to quote the instructor.She said 'No one fall off on this'. Spent the last third of it with the button under my chin - and arms coming out of there sockets - didnt want to let go. Have been terrified of them ever since.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:39:09 GMT

I have no problem with drag lifts. I would always choose a chair over a button lift, but would not refuse to use one if it was the best option.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:42:31 GMT

Must try to get over the fear - I do not use them correctly- too nervous to sit on them. Stand upright and hang on to pole with my arms. Must try better :oops:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:45:59 GMT

Lizzie-B wrote:Must try to get over the fear - I do not use them correctly- too nervous to sit on them. Stand upright and hang on to pole with my arms. Must try better :oops:

Jeez, no wonder you dont like them.
Put the button between your legs and stand up as if youre skiing, and relax.
Time to look around and enjoy the scenery.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:47:57 GMT

Lizzie-B wrote:Must try to get over the fear - I do not use them correctly- too nervous to sit on them. Stand upright and hang on to pole with my arms. Must try better :oops:

Without meaning any disrespect you're doing it right already! Do not sit down. Just assume a skiing position and let the button pull/drag you along. Imagine a friend behind you giving you a push in the lower back with their arm. If you tried to sit down you'd fall, but if you just stand in a skiing position and accept the push then it will all come together. Does that make any sense?

Soon you can let go of the pole and much on a twix or some such.

Owen.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:49:49 GMT

Bugger, Just said in 50 words what Tony managed in 10...

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:52:30 GMT

Marksman wrote:Bugger, Just said in 50 words what Tony managed in 10...

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:53:05 GMT

Yep does make sense - Husband very frustrated with me. On reading your notes I think he said sit down cos I am so upright concentrating on my skis and trying to steer them. Like the idea of a friend behind giving a push - will try that in mind and action Thanks so much

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:06:44 GMT

No worries. Hope it works out for you. :thumbup:

Owen.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:08:26 GMT

Look out for the aggressive drags at mid station above the Frejus chair!!!!!

Prepare for lift off!!!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:31:51 GMT

The thing with drag lifts for me is that i get a bit bored.....and then mess about.
I try things like trying to make tracks wider than anyone else and faff about in by rucksack.....before long i loose the track and start to fall and then have all the grace of a rising camel as i try to stay on my feet...

Im sure people look at me and think 'for f sake just ride the lift man!'

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:14:01 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:The thing with drag lifts for me is that i get a bit bored.....and then mess about.
I try things like trying to make tracks wider than anyone else and faff about in by rucksack.....before long i loose the track and start to fall and then have all the grace of a rising camel as i try to stay on my feet...

Im sure people look at me and think 'for f sake just ride the lift man!'

Me too, I'm always faffing with my gloves and messing around with my poles. I'm just a big kid.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:38:03 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:The thing with drag lifts for me is that i get a bit bored.....and then mess about.
I try things like trying to make tracks wider than anyone else and faff about in by rucksack.....before long i loose the track and start to fall and then have all the grace of a rising camel as i try to stay on my feet...

Im sure people look at me and think 'for f sake just ride the lift man!'

Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:56:02 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:
Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Avatar?
Oxymoron?
:roll:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:55:00 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Im 39 this year Ian, i'm not sure i can still look cool. Everytime i ask my 11 year old how i look she just rolls her eyes....Not that I'm bothered

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:18:11 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Im 39 this year Ian, i'm not sure i can still look cool. Everytime i ask my 11 year old how i look she just rolls her eyes....Not that I'm bothered

Boys, practice makes perfect ...... Snapzzy your never too old to look cool, just check out my Avatar :wink:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:08:13 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:

Snapzzz wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Im 39 this year Ian, i'm not sure i can still look cool. Everytime i ask my 11 year old how i look she just rolls her eyes....Not that I'm bothered

Boys, practice makes perfect ...... Snapzzy your never too old to look cool, just check out my Avatar :wink:

King of cool Mr W 8)

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:11:05 GMT

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:12:28 GMT

OldAndy wrote:

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Had a morning skiing in shorts once just to prove that we could

VERY gentle slopes and no falls

Oh and no drag lifts (to keep on topic)

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:39:01 GMT

OldAndy wrote:

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Thats what I am wearing in March on my first visit to Austria ...... I think I will blend in quite well with the locals and still look cool 8) 8) 8)

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:49:48 GMT

Iceman wrote:Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

They had T bars in Rauris last yr. Wouldn't let my kids go on em.

Have never minded drag lifts until this yr in bardonecchia. They had a few which went on for AGES and were very precarious and there was always the worry, "What if one of the kids fell off, and if so, how would we find our way onto the piste?" as they were in the middle of nowhere after half a minute! Shame as one was a very scenis gorgeous blue run, and another a black run the kids wanted to go on lots but we couldn't risk that awful lift on their own
Also, over at Jefferau, my hubby stopped top of the piste with my jacket, camera and videa bag and his backpack, ready to film me when I got off the lift. I skied down, and as I got down, the lift broke. he wasn't impressed having to come back down carrying all kinds of stuff. Fortunately it was a very small run. lol

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:50:39 GMT

Snapzzz wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:

Remember drag lifts are there for us to look cool on :thumbup:

Im 39 this year Ian, i'm not sure i can still look cool. Everytime i ask my 11 year old how i look she just rolls her eyes....Not that I'm bothered

You're only a young pup! )

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:51:54 GMT

andyoneil wrote:

OldAndy wrote:

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Had a morning skiing in shorts once just to prove that we could

VERY gentle slopes and no falls

Oh and no drag lifts (to keep on topic)

The kids always remember a guy skiing in just his grunds in Andorra. I have a photo somewhere! is there a facilty to upload it?

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:02:46 GMT

Discodee wrote:

andyoneil wrote:

OldAndy wrote:

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Had a morning skiing in shorts once just to prove that we could

VERY gentle slopes and no falls

Oh and no drag lifts (to keep on topic)

The kids always remember a guy skiing in just his grunds in Andorra. I have a photo somewhere! is there a facilty to upload it?

we were in Andorra.......

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:16:37 GMT

I don't mind a button lift but my daughter hates them. A bad experience has made her so nervous that she tenses up and as a result falls off.

There is a T bar at the top of the glacier at Deux Alpes, I had a lovely bruise behind my knee and inside my thigh when my husband didn't twist it far enough out of the way when getting off - thanks for that! But the funniest sight I ever saw was two snowboarders riding it up facing each other astride the bar, which frankly looks like two people enjoying a double ended sex toy!!! Needless to say one "arrived" first and then the other fell off.....

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:37:06 GMT

felthorpe wrote: Needless to say one "arrived" first and then the other fell off.....

Owen.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:00:36 GMT

andyoneil wrote:

Discodee wrote:

andyoneil wrote:

OldAndy wrote:

NellyPS wrote:
King of cool Mr W 8)

IMHO anyone wearing shorts in the snow would be cold not cool .....
:roll:

Had a morning skiing in shorts once just to prove that we could

VERY gentle slopes and no falls

Oh and no drag lifts (to keep on topic)

The kids always remember a guy skiing in just his grunds in Andorra. I have a photo somewhere! is there a facilty to upload it?

we were in Andorra.......

Ooh now. When was this then? We were there January 2008 and I have the photo somewhere lol

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Fri, 3 Feb 2012 21:27:38 GMT

And it was in Arinsal

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sat, 4 Feb 2012 10:24:59 GMT

tbh, im a good snowboarder, ive been boarding for years and this is the first year i learnt to use one and now can use them! i would avoid them at all costs, i had a nightmare on one years ago, and vowed never go near one again. my mate hasnt boarded in 6 years, the first thing he does is go straight on a button lift, before even going down a small hill to get the feeling and getting used to it again! so i thought id give it another go and hey presto, i can now use em!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:06:07 GMT

I can't quite see what the problem is......

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:27:57 GMT

:lol: I suspect a Photoshop job!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:54:43 GMT

Spoiler! Great pic though!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sat, 4 Feb 2012 23:11:36 GMT

Iceman wrote:Do t-bar still exist? I hate them, I always end up taking out the person I am on with. Or they are smaller than me and the bar is on their back!

Oh, yes they still exist :( Last year in Serfaus had the dilemma to continue on the black slope with my 5yo who just started skiing or take together the t-bar, huh …

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 08:23:55 GMT

Dave Mac wrote:I can't quite see what the problem is......

The problem is the puddle of yellow snow...

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:48:28 GMT

offshore wrote:tbh, im a good snowboarder, ive been boarding for years and this is the first year i learnt to use one and now can use them! i would avoid them at all costs, i had a nightmare on one years ago, and vowed never go near one again. my mate hasnt boarded in 6 years, the first thing he does is go straight on a button lift, before even going down a small hill to get the feeling and getting used to it again! so i thought id give it another go and hey presto, i can now use em!

I'd never found any problem till this year. It depends where they are. I honestly think you'd have badly struggled on 2 of them in Bardonecchia. They were extremely long and very steep. And the problem was most of the time, if you DID come off, you were nowhere near the piste!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:48:45 GMT

Love the photo Dave mac!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 11:27:42 GMT

Dave Mac in doctored photo shock!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:23:06 GMT

There was a nasty drag lift in Les Carroz, behind the Hotel les Airelles. It started off with such a jump - yuk. It was the best way to get to the gondola station other than using the ski bus. However, I hated it so much that I elected to use the bus every day. I'm a wimp and proud of it! :oops:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:26:53 GMT

Good hotel for a weekend ski trip, Les Airelles.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:35:07 GMT

Nice hotel, great food. Would stay there again. Unfortunately when we were there, the people in the next room had a baby that cried every morning at 6am. Apart from the early wake-up call, we still enjoyed our holiday.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:42:05 GMT

acarr wrote:Nice hotel, great food. Would stay there again. Unfortunately when we were there, the people in the next room had a baby that cried every morning at 6am. Apart from the early wake-up call, we still enjoyed our holiday.

and wibbling away !!!
I was awoken most morning at about 6.00 by a child crying as well. I do feel for parents when this happens as I know there is often so little that can be done.

I was amazed when I found out who it was as we had nick-named this kid "smiler" as she was having such a wonderful holiday and was so cheerful all the rest of the day.
I reckon she just wanted to get her parents up and out so she could play in the snow some more.
:mrgreen:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:33:51 GMT

you feel for parents? I feel for the poor kid. Sorry, but babies shouldn't be taken on holidays abroad. We did Pontins and Haven when ours were small and they LOVED it. Moved on to further fields as they got much older. What's in it for the baby? And what if they get sick in a foreign country miles from anywhere? They can't say what's wrong or how they feel. Sorry but it's awful and selfish. Wait till the poor mite is old enough to enjoy going abroad and can remember it five years later! If it's an older child just having a bad night, fair enough, but babies should not be taken abroad.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:02:21 GMT

Discodee wrote:you feel for parents? I feel for the poor kid. Sorry, but babies shouldn't be taken on holidays abroad. We did Pontins and Haven when ours were small and they LOVED it. Moved on to further fields as they got much older. What's in it for the baby? And what if they get sick in a foreign country miles from anywhere? They can't say what's wrong or how they feel. Sorry but it's awful and selfish. Wait till the poor mite is old enough to enjoy going abroad and can remember it five years later! If it's an older child just having a bad night, fair enough, but babies should not be taken abroad.

My daughter has traveled abroad since the age of 7 months now at the age of 10 a seasoned traveller. Never had any problems with her, any way you can't hear her in the boot :wink: October she will do her first long haul flight.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:55:45 GMT

Ian Wickham wrote:
My daughter has traveled abroad since the age of 7 months now at the age of 10 a seasoned traveller. Never had any problems with her, any way you can't hear her in the boot :wink: October she will do her first long haul flight.

Single or return??

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:03:18 GMT

OldAndy wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:
My daughter has traveled abroad since the age of 7 months now at the age of 10 a seasoned traveller. Never had any problems with her, any way you can't hear her in the boot :wink: October she will do her first long haul flight.

Single or return??

Deffo a return ..... :wink:

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:03:49 GMT

Discodee wrote: And what if they get sick in a foreign country miles from anywhere?

Yeah, with france being so third world....

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:12:18 GMT

Be sarcastic if you must. I am talking about up in the mountains miles away from a hospital and having to speak to foreign doctors. Sorry, I do not mean to offend anyone,it is only MHO but it is something I feel very strongly about. It's scarey enough if your child takes badly ill at home and babies can fall very ill very quickly.

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:24:17 GMT

Discodee wrote:Be sarcastic if you must. I am talking about up in the mountains miles away from a hospital and having to speak to foreign doctors. Sorry, I do not mean to offend anyone,it is only MHO but it is something I feel very strongly about. It's scarey enough if your child takes badly ill at home and babies can fall very ill very quickly.

When Little W was born we missed a year so she first went with us skiing when she was fourteen months, we did drive that year and she was no problem and she has been every year since, her passion for skiing matches ours now.
Don't take offence I think it was only meant as a joke

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:31:02 GMT

Fairy snuff!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:42:38 GMT

Discodee wrote:Fairy snuff!

Yeah, sorry i didn't mean to sound so sarcastic. I nearly meant that sometimes our fears are totally unfounded....but we all have our own opinions on how to raise our kids and i fully respect yours.

Jon

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:08:20 GMT

Thank you kind sir! Unfortunately the typed word is often misconstrued!

Re:Drag lifts (skiers, not boarders)

Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:51:58 GMT

Go on an Esprit holiday and see how kids should not be brought up.