Things that bug you.

Iceman wrote: she is no moron I have you know

Ranchero_1979 wrote:Agree with VSB and OldAndy. Am sure both of you have also skied off-piste with say level 3 warning and thought was a reasonable risk incidents still happen. This is actually what draws people off piste, sense of freedom, responsibility, decision making and real risk even with guide that something could happen. I think is a bit naive to think that incidents can't happen, there is intrinsic danger in high mountains of avalanche from above, Serac fall.

Personally I have no ABS (I don't expect to be caught in avalanche) but still consider it my responsibility off skiing off-piste/glacier to have correct equipment. 30m rope, harness, prusiks, screws, probe, shovel, transceiver. Why because people make mistakes and I would wish to be able to assist. When you are looking at minutes in burial situation 1st person on scene has to be rescuer. Unlike crevasse etc anyway best option is nearly always to call in assistance. Avalanche is completely different, would your thinking be not to accept assistance if someone arrived where a friend or family member was buried because it was "your own mistake"? Would you be great full had they been trained and had modern equipment? I assume nobody would keep probing around alone and wave people past as "they knew risks".

My view is people always wish to push limits and sometimes this will mean incidents happen. Those people in vicinity enjoying same risks should be willing and prepared to assist. If those people who sometimes cut above you etc were encouraged to do a course and dig out a rucksack at 2m there appreciation for risk would change. I will still go for the fresh powder once it has settled and start on reasonable gradient slopes and stay off wind loaded slopes. Does that mean I have never seen a sluff where I thought was reasonable to ski on. No because whenever you're are on a slope, you are taking educated decision it is safe. If nobody ever took that, there would always be fresh tracks given no slope is 100% safe.

Brucie wrote:Narcissistic people with this years must have gadge - the GO PRO!!!!

tropicana wrote:.....snow boarders that dont look where they are going and nearly wipe us skiers out!!!